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Jesus said His sheep hear and follow, not just hear. Salvation has always been conditional, OT and NT alike. Nowhere is salvation ever described as a unconditional guarantee regardless of what the Christian does. The Christian has the promise of eternal life 1 John 2:25 (promise is something...

From Ephesians 1:4, Ephesians 5:27 and 2 Peter 3:14 Christians are those who have the trait of being without spot, without wrinkle, blameless and holy. One cannot be a sinner and possess these traits at the same time. The verb "cleanseth" in 1 John 1:7 is present tense. so it is that continual...

Yet men are not born with a sin nature, not born totally depraved for such would give men an excuse for their sinning when man has no excuse for his sin (Romans 1:20). If men were born tota;;y depraved they would have no free will but could only be a slave to that totally depraved nature only...

I do not agree with this. OSASers simply assume the word 'never' into the verse. What is to stop anyone from claiming a verse is a 'maxim' and then they can add/subtract any word to that verse changing the meaning of the verse?

1 John 1:7 "But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin." As long as the Christian conditionally continues to walk in the light then all of his sins are continually cleansed away, so...

A ---------------------------------- B ----------------------------- C At point A they could have become faithful Christians having the word of God abiding in them and remained faithful Christians until point B. But at point B they allowed false teachings to replace the word of God so they no...

No, I didn't. But the word 'never' is not in the verse. If one who is supposedly a Christian sins and his sinning then proves he was never really a Christian, then one must live perfectly sinless to be a "real" Christian?

The pronoun "them" refers back to Christ's sheep of verse 27 (John 10:27). Therefore if one is to be of "them" then one must CONDITIONALLY be of Christ's sheep. And no one can UNconditionally be of Christ's sheep for one must CONDITIONALLY hear and follow Christ to be of Christ's sheep. With...

It does not say they were NEVER of us, which leaves the possibility they once were of them (point A) but did not let the word of God dwell in them therefore no longer of them (at point B) and therefore not of them at the time they went out (not of them from point B to they went out at point C).

This does not eliminate the possibility they had been of them once (point A) turned from the faith (point B) therefore not of them at the time they went out (not of them from point B to point C).

So if they were never saved then the most the verse teaches us is that those who were never saved were never saved, it does not prove it is impossible for a saved person to fall. John says "they" were not of us, John did not say "all" who go out from us were not of us. So John is speaking...

And believing (John 6:27) and repentance (Matthew 12:41 cf Jonah 3:10) are both obedient works, they are doing God's righteousness and earn nothing but necessary in order to receive the gift of salvation. The unbeliever (John 3:18) and impenitent (Romans 2:4-5; Luke 13:3) will not receive the...

Matt 7:21, the most the verse proves is a never saved person was never saved, it still does not prove it is impossible for a Christian to fall away and become lost. In Matt 7:21 Jesus is speaking about certain individuals and what He says about those in Matt 7 cannot be made universal for there...

Faith only-ist err in not understanding, or refusing to understand that all works are not alike. No verse eliminates any and all kinds of works from salvation for NO verse eliminates obedience to God's righteousness while other verses do eliminate works of the OT law and works of merit. Romans...

No one can be made righteous apart from doing righteousness. 1 John 3:10 as long as one continues to not do righteous, he continues to not be of God,,he continues to be unrighteous. Calvinism tries to put the cart before the horse in having one somehow be righteous BEFORE one even does any...

One cannot be justified BEFORE one obeys. One must first obey BEFORE he can be justified. If one is justified BEFORE one obeys that has GOd justifying the reprobate, ungodly sinner which He does not. No one can be justified by faith alone, that is, justified by faith void of obedience, James...

Those born with severe mental disabilities do not become sinful and infants that die as infants do not become sinful. Romans 7:8-9 Paul teaches there is something some people refer to as an age of accountability. All are born innocent not knowing right from wrong. But as one grows...

"They went out from us, but they were not of us;..." It shows they were not of us at the time they went out from us. John did not say they were never of us. Even if they were never of us then all the verse proves is that a never saved person was never said, it still does not prove it is...

People do as they choose to do. Choices are not influenced by a sin nature for men are not born with a sin nature. Again, if men are born with a sin nature that causes men to choose to do wrong, then man cannot be justly, rightly be condemned by God or anyone else. One born without legs...

So if they were NEVER of us then the most the verse proves is one who was never saved was never saved. Yet the verse still does not prove that it is impossible for one who was saved to fall away. Secondly, what John says is only applicable to those particular people to whom he was talking...