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    The false doctrines of the Preterist and Futurist interpretation

    @Hobie Please see below the interpretation for 7:25 - regarding the "time, times, and 1/2 time." It ties in perfectly with the interpretation that the "Saints of the Most High" refer to God's 10 commandments. Verse 25c–Then the saints shall be given into his hands until a time and times and...
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    The false doctrines of the Preterist and Futurist interpretation

    Thanks for this post. I believe this interpretation might come from the writings of the SDA folks. They got most of it right but they believe the 10 horns or kings are literally secular one's and they also secularized the 3 being "plucked up by the roots" as the 3 groups you mentioned. They...
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    Babylon

    I understand. But just to give you a brief thought.... the 10 toes were captive, like the clay (Jews) within the 4th kingdom of pagan Rome when the Messiah arrived. After the cross, the 10 toes were symbolically released along with those Jews (pottery clay) who accepted Him as their Messiah...
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    Babylon

    Thanks for your response. I am not a SDA ... and I can assure you they nor others believe this or have even considered the 10 toes or 10 horns as the 10 commandments. I finished a 5 year study on Daniel and I had not read one commentator that considered the 10 horns as other than 10 kings...
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    Babylon

    It certainly was God's decision and choice where, when and how He would arrive to begin His ministry. But these verses are not speaking about or to a king of the secular world. God is speaking about His toes / horns / kings / Saints of the Most High - all referring to His 10 commandments as...
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    Babylon

    It isn’t about secular kingdoms. But God will use kingdoms, people, timing, within His plan of salvation. I apologize but I am having trouble understanding why the fact that His arrival took place during Rome or a certain Caesar was in a power.
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    Babylon

    :If you do not mind, earlier I responded with a narrative from my commetary on Daniel - verse 7:24a. Here is another narrative for verse 7:25b.....I hope it makes sense to you.... Verse 25b–Shall persecute the saints of the Most High Daniel 7:25 offers us a powerful glimpse into a great...
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    Babylon

    Yes, Jesus established His earthly kingdom at His first coming. Verse 2:44 is predicting His arrival in the 4th kingdom and tying everthing together in Daniel. He is showing the progression or transition of His 10 commandments as they come out of the Jewish nation, which was help captive within...
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    Babylon

    This is not about the Caesar's or the Roman emporers or secular kingdoms. Daniel is writing about the coming Messiah and those things that are related to both the restoration of His people back to Jerusalem, and a greater prophecy about the salvation and restoration of mankind. As I mentioned...
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    Babylon

    14Now after John was put in prison, Jesus came to Galilee, preaching the gospel [f]of the kingdom of God, 15and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God [g]is at hand. Repent, and believe in the gospel.” I am not sure why these two verses are influencing your interpretation of...
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    Babylon

    I don't believe so. God is revealing His kingdom will take place during the"days of these kings." He does not or is not concerned about the secualr kings of the world. They are not important in this prophecy. Remember, should you accept the interpretation of 2:34 (and I pray you do), the purpose...
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    Babylon

    "In the days of these kings." God is telling us that Jesus would set up His kingdom when He came to earth to begin His ministry, and of course, sacrifice His life for "many," These 10 toes (10 commandments) were given to Moses some 1500 years earlier. Meaning, they existed both before and...
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    Babylon

    For what it is worth.... The phrase in 2:44 does not represent 10 kingdoms, nations, kings, that will be found on / in the earth, as we expect to see them. In 2:44, " in the days of these kings," they refer to God 10 commandments. Intially, God will show His 10 as 10 toes which are symbolically...
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    The false doctrines of the Preterist and Futurist interpretation

    For what it is worth... Interpretation Sequence Daniel 7:23 23Thus he said: ‘The fourth beast shall be a fourth kingdom on earth, which shall be different from all other kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, trample it and break it in pieces. After the fall of Pagan Rome—the first...
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    Babylon

    For what it is worth.... Jesus was crucified outside the city gates of Jerusalem. The Gospels indicate that He was crucified at a place called Golgotha, which means "Place of the Skull" (Matthew 27:33, Mark 15:22, Luke 23:33, John 19:17). The location was outside the city walls, in accordance...
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    Who Is The Antichrist? A Biblical Prespective.

    For what it is worth.... Daniel 9:24 24Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and...
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    Babylon

    For what it is worth... here is a cut / paste from the commetary from chapter 7. This ties to the reference in chapter 2:44, "In the days of these kings." I do understand how this comes across from today's accepted interpretations, and it is even more cryptic when such a very different...
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    MYSTERY, BABYLON... IS NOT THE CHURCH OF ROME

    for what it is worth... here is a carve out from my commentary on the book of Daniel. This is just a small writing that speaks of the papacy as the little horn in both Daniel and Revelation. Daniel 7:11-12 11I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld...
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    Who Is The Antichrist? A Biblical Prespective.

    verse 2:45 is the end time destruction --- this is when all of the individual components / elements - including the clay (representing those that rejected Jesus... would be destroyed. But 2:34 represents His first coming only. He came to separate the pottery clay from the ceramic clay out from...
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    Who Is The Antichrist? A Biblical Prespective.

    the Stone in 2:34 represents the Messiah at His first coming and He did not come to destroy but to divide. Thus, He struck the feet only (not the toes) and broke into pieces the iron and clay elements only. This was symbolically to separate the Jews (clay) from the iron (Roman Empire) and allow...