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Revelation 6:5-6 (Third seal) 5 When He opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come and see.” So I looked, and behold, a black horse, and he who sat on it had a pair of scales in his hand. 6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four living creatures saying, “A quart...

Here is a part of the narrative prepared for the four horsemen... we can discuss again in the morning, thanks. Relationship of 7 churches with 4 horsemen The messages of the seven churches and the visions of the four horsemen in Revelation weave together into a grand and divinely ordered...

I am not sure the answer will be found in chapter 1. I would ask that you consider when the 6 seals might take place and also consider the listing of the 12 tribes in chapter 7... Revelation is not going back to the time of Christ... the cross is the beginning of the church and that is where...

Ok and thanks... I think I understand your interpretation. I would ask that you might take a look at chapter 6:16- which discusses the 6th seal and the timing of it... also, in 7:1 when it continues with, " 1 After these things I saw four angels...." Revelation is very complicated - we are...

I believe this is speaking to those who were literally resurrected as a result of the resurrection of Christ in the first century. Again, the book of Revelation begins with John and church age (really after the cross period and after the church has already begun to be preached in the world)...

Thanks. I am not sure I completely understand your thoughts but let me ask you a question. Is it your understanding that the 144000 will have their blindness removed AFTER Jesus returns? For me, there has been almost 2000 years (period of the 7 churches) for people to repent. Now that we are...

Just a thought... I believe the dead in Christ as well as those alive in Christ will be taken to be with Jesus when He returns. Both will be given an immortal body. However, after the millenium, those that are brought up from the grave are those that have rejected Jesus from all time. They will...

Have a good day… I will no longer be responding to your posts. Best wishes.

Did you say there are living people on the earth during the time if the millennium that had not accepted Jesus? I believe those individuals where sent into the grave at His coming while those who accepted Him, that were alive or in the grave were resurrected to be with Him for those 1000 years...

I see the removal of their blindness quite differently.. Here is my narrative on the 144K at the end of time - for what it is worth. Revelation 7:4-8 4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed. One hundred and forty-four thousands of all the tribes of the children of Israel were sealed...

I would ask you read chapter 20 to answer that question.

Thanks, but that is the purpose for mentioning this the way it was.... to isolate each step and then to be able to discuss each issue separately should they disagree,

Ok and thanks... here is how I understand the end times.... at His return, Jesus will take those who are believers - those that have already died and those still alive with HIm. They will be with Him for 1000 years. However, also at His return, those alive who have not repented and rejected Him...

ok and thanks.. what is telling you that?

At Christ’s Return (Revelation 19:19-21): The beast and false prophet are cast into the lake of fire (final and permanent). The wicked alive at His return are killed physically (not yet judged). (FIRST DEATH -PHYSICAL) Comment: I don't believe anyone has an issue with the above. During the...

Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. Here is your verse from above .... is this when the dead in Christ are destroyed --- and devoured them?

Well, this is the simple list of verses in revelation that I had identified earlier (a couple of times) and where I asked if anyone might go throught these four points and identify one or more of the comments (in bold) that are in error. Thus, one might be willing to inform me of the reason it...

I will try and get some time to respond to the last reply you made to me... it will take some time and I don't have that right now. But one of the points you mention here is exactly what caused me to raise this issue. And I will give you the 3 separate events that caused me and may still cause...

Well, at least I got something right!

I thought I said that "today's accepted interpretations" reflect one resurrection and judgement not multiple... which is the reason I was having so much difficulty when accounting for the literal verses in revelation - which is why I presented each of them in detail to have others look at them...