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  1. Harvest 1874

    Is Hell worse for Some?

    Unfortunately the wrong answer, nothing more than the vain babblings of men.
  2. Harvest 1874

    Is Hell worse for Some?

    Simple question.. CAN YOU ANSWER [25] But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. How IS Abraham, WHOSE BODY IS DEAD and buried IN A CAVE, "IN HELL, SPEAKING TO...
  3. Harvest 1874

    The Rich man and the Beggar, Part 3

    Luke 16 (NKJV) In our previous post we considered what the implication would be if we were to have considered these verses as literal statements, now we shall like to see the true meaning of these verses hidden by the Lord from the worldly wise through the use of metaphors and figurative...
  4. Harvest 1874

    Is Hell worse for Some?

    There are various types of figurative language which one may employ to teach a lesson such as using metaphors, similes, hyperbole's, symbolism and other various allusions all with the intention of alluding to something without directly stating it, and so it was with our Lord when he spoke in...
  5. Harvest 1874

    Is Hell worse for Some?

    Well said, unfortunately not all can see this truth, but are left to their own imaginings and those of other men. As is usually the case one error befalls another (the belief in the immotailty of the soul) leads to the next error the belief that the wages of sin is eternal torment and so it is...
  6. Harvest 1874

    Is Hell worse for Some?

    In your last sentence here you add to the word of God, God did not say that he formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living, body AND soul.' You are attempting to force you preconceived notions on what exactly a soul consist of...
  7. Harvest 1874

    Is Hell worse for Some?

    It is the body, the organism which came from the dust of the earth, you the being, the soul did not come into existence until the breath of life was infused in the organism only then when the two were combined did you become a living soul.
  8. Harvest 1874

    Is Hell worse for Some?

    Thank you for the compliment. However I get the impression you are assuming (erroneously I might add) that I believe ALL our Lord’s teachings to be parables, symbolic or figurative in nature that is not the case the Lord taught many truths as plain as day so that anyone of a sound mind could...
  9. Harvest 1874

    Is Hell worse for Some?

    You are correct, I do disagree. Souls DO NOT continue to live on after death, nor did our Lord ever teach such a lie. What you are saying is the complete opposite of what God’s word says, viz. the “wages of sin is death”, and that the “soul that sins it shall die”. You’re saying the “wages of...
  10. Harvest 1874

    Memorize, but how?

    Agreed, My brother once bragged of a young man in his church who only being about 14 or 15 could quote just about any verse (I believe his father was a preacher, but not of that particular church) this I said was commendable and would greatly aid him in the future when he was called upon to give...
  11. Harvest 1874

    The Rich man and the Beggar, Part 2

    Continued from previous post. Now then let us consider the poor man. There is nothing said about his being a particularly good man a righteous man (there are plenty of poor people who are just as bad if not worse than a lot of rich people), nor is it stated that he prayed a great deal--not a...
  12. Harvest 1874

    The Rich man and the Beggar, Part 1

    Our friend Taken from the discussion forum asked us to: Highlight the parts of Jesus' teaching OF HIS DOCTRINE, "YOU" claim are NOT Factual Truths As we had stated it is our contention that this is a parable and that the Lord deliberately chose to use metaphors, i.e. figurative language so as...
  13. Harvest 1874

    Is Hell worse for Some?

    Now here you make the assertion that we don’t believe this parable to be a doctrine (teaching) of Christ. No one’s claiming that this parable is not a doctrine of Christ. He’s the one presenting the parable so obviously it’s his doctrine. However your insistence that it is to be taken as a...
  14. Harvest 1874

    Is Hell worse for Some?

    No, I did not say the Lord was not true, I said YOU were not true, that YOU were the one who was in error. By your saying that the Lord Jesus is the Truth and only speaks the truth and then turning around and ascribing to our Lord Satan’s lie (viz. “Thou shall surely not die”, Gen 3:4) YOU are...
  15. Harvest 1874

    Is Hell worse for Some?

    There is also a scripture which states: "And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie (a false teaching or doctrine, specifically Satan's lie to Eve), that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth (when spoken) but had pleasure in...
  16. Harvest 1874

    Is Hell worse for Some?

    Its obvious you have little understanding of the true intent of this statement. It in no way supports your false doctrine. This passage is simply saying that Christ will baptize the people of Israel (the "remnant", Israelite's indeed) with the holy Spirit and (the rest of that nation with) fire...
  17. Harvest 1874

    Is Hell worse for Some?

    This is a false, one cannot be spiritually dead until first they were made spiritually alive, and the only ones presently who are alive spiritually are those begotten of God's spirit. Adam was created a natural man no spark of spirituality was infused in him nor in any of his posterity save...
  18. Harvest 1874

    Is Hell worse for Some?

    This is merely your opinion and is not supported by the Scriptures. As for the text cited this actually contradicts your assumption. Fire is not a preserving element it is a consuming element. Whatever is thrown in it is utterly consumed until it exist no more. Have you ever heard of a...
  19. Harvest 1874

    Is Hell worse for Some?

    I don't use the New World translation, I used the NKJV (along with several other Bibles for cross reference).
  20. Harvest 1874

    Is Hell worse for Some?

    Everlasting existence (life) in eternal torment is not in the Bible, it is a man-made doctrine contrived by the professing church in order to drive men to Christ through fear. As our Lord so stated, “He that hath the Son hath life, he that hath not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of...