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    Why do Premillennialists not believe that 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-13 refer to the same event?

    You do not believe Paul's 2 Thess 2 then? Paul told us Satan is being restrained right now. Right before Christ returns, God will remove the restraints. Satan will be released and allowed to deceive the nations most fully with all power, all sorts of signs and lying wonders to deceive using...
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    Why do Premillennialists not believe that 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-13 refer to the same event?

    No. Satan is restrained right now. The bottomless pit is the means of restraint, guarded over by Michael who is the restrainer. Michael is the high angel who has always fought and restrained the devil. Why create anything more than that for doctrine? Where else is Satan being restrained alluded...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    Matthew 23:39 For I say to you, from now on you will not see Me until you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’” Actually, this is not implied as something that will happen as something they will do in the future, as in believe and be saved. It is not prophetic. Christ's...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    Our citizenship is in heaven. When we die today or we are alive when He returns, using the ministry of angels, Christ comes and gets us to bring us to Himself. This earth is not our home, another good piece of evidence there is no 1000 year reign on this old earth. Where exactly are we going...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    Yes, Paradise is no longer where it was, separated from God. This was at the end of the old and beginning of the NC. Next we read of Paradise is in Heaven with God in the New Heaven. The angels minister to those who will inherit salvation. So, they were there taking care of all the OT saints...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    I think the promise is eternal life with God in heaven. None of them could receive that until Christ came. So when they died, they went to Paradise, which was not heaven, otherwise called Abraham's Bosom. A special place where they received good things. It was also the place where Jesus went...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    Well, I do not think they were. No OT saint was made complete without Christ, and they did not go to heaven until Christ came, dies and ascends back into heaven, leading the captivity captive. Hebrews 11 39 And all these, having obtained a good testimony through faith, did not receive the...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    I john 2, the Spirit of God teaches His people. Let Truth Abide in You 24 Therefore let that abide in you which you heard from the beginning. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, you also will abide in the Son and in the Father. 25 And this is the promise that He has promised...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    Colossians 3 1 If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God. 2 Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth. 3 For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. 4 When Christ who is our life...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    Except you have tainted what you said with your own theology. When we are absent from the body, where are we? For believers we are present with Christ. Now in the OC, this was not so. All went to Hades-Sheol, some in torments , the place of the dead to await Christ's ascension As when Christ...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    "the flesh profits nothing." Yet people still place great emphasis on flesh and blood inheriting the kingdom in their 1000 year flesh and blood reigning on an earth in a flesh and blood kingdom that does not experience a sudden destruction of the wicked, those who do not obey Christ at the...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    That's right, it matters not at all whether someone is jew or gentile, all that matters is a NEW creation in Christ. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. And the flesh goes on to corruption. It is the Spirit that gives life to spirit. All...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    John 8 52 Then the Jews said to Him, “Now we know that You have a demon! Abraham is dead, and the prophets; and You say, ‘If anyone keeps My word he shall never taste death.’ 53 Are You greater than our father Abraham, who is dead? And the prophets are dead. Who do You make Yourself out to be?”...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    But even Moses showed in the burning bush passage that the dead are raised, when he called the Lord ‘the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.’ For He is not the God of the dead but of the living, for all live to Him.” ******************************** Jesus is telling us that...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    Oh, it is a biblical notion in the NEW Testament. Not in JW teaching they teach people when they die go poof and are gone as if they never were. For example 34 Jesus answered and said to them, “The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage. 35 But those who are counted worthy to attain...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    Yes, believers are the Israel of God, matters not if they were jew or gentile before they believed. As believers are born again of the Father, that is why they can hear Christ as the have God as their Father. God has given to them ears that hear what the Spirit speaks. God accomplishes that be...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    Those who do not hear are not of God Why is that? Well to be of God means to be born of God. Nothing else matters except for being a New Creation in Christ. John 8 47 He who is of God hears God’s words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God.” John 1 10 He was in the world, and...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    25 Most assuredly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God; and those who hear will live. Refers to those alive in the body but dead in the spirit, who hear the Lord Jesus, believe, and become spiritually alive to God.
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    True, Jesus taught us those who believe in Him have passed from death into life at that moment and will NOT come into judgement. Perhaps Jesus was speaking of the great white throne judgement where the dead are judged by their works, I always thought it so. John 5 also teaches of the...
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    Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so a 1000 yr reign on this earth is false

    Course some do not believe in Christ as God come in the flesh, they might believe the Son of God would dwell in temples made with hands, but of course they are wrong The Humbled and Exalted Christ 5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, being in the form of God, did not...