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That's not the example of Abraham's faith. He did obey Gods commandments before God accounted His faith as righteousness. Your teaching is not Biblical faith.

Again, so according to you. If Abraham only believed what God tells him but rebelled against God by not leaving his homeland, not sacrificing his son Isacc. That is according to you saving faith. Or faith without obedience to God. James 2:20, - but do you want to know O foolish man that faith...

If Abraham only believed God but did not leave his homeland, then God would have never accounted Abraham's faith as righteousness. Saving faith in the old and new testaments has always been a faith that obeys God.

No, you need to study your old testament. Genesis 12 Abraham believed and obeyed Gods commandments. Genesis 15:6 God accounts Abraham's faith as righteousness. That is not faith alone and no obedience. God said Abraham's faith was accounted righteousness because he did not have faith only, he...

Read Genesis 12 to Genesis 26. That will explain that Abraham was justified by an obedient faith. God never justified Abraham because he believed what he said. He was accounted righteous because He believed and obeyed God. Hebrews 11:8, - by faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to...

That's vague. Be specific of what you believe God requires of us to receive His grace. If you say we must do something, that goes against the theology that God does everything man does nothing.

Ephesians 2:8-9. Explain where and how the Ephesians were saved? Obedience is not saving ourselves without Gods grace. As Ernest T. Bass has asked, where in the Bible does it say obeying Gods will is a work of merit?

Jesus said yes, Hebrews 5:8-9, - and having been perfected, Jesus became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him.

Never said, baptism in Jesus name is not found in the new testament as you wrongly accused me. I said I've never found "this doctrine" i.e. water baptism in Jesus' name in the NT for those who are already saved.

I know I never said that. Quote me saying no passage of baptism in the name of Jesus Christ. You are either making false accusations against me or don't pay attention and are careless what you say about others. Which one is it? I'll be expecting an apology if you are a man of integrity.

Yes not apostles, the reason I used this verse is to show those with hardness of heart cannot be saved. The apostles are in the same boat with these folks. They(apostles) had hardened their hearts. You are trying to convince me that folks with hardened hearts will be saved and in heaven. All...

So, if you never loose your trust in God, then you are waiting on Him to perform good works through you. What then do we think of those who trust in Christ but show no good works in there lives? I'm guessing you would say they never really trusted in Jesus. Therefore if true Biblical saving...

Please elaborate, are you suggesting that God does the work of believing for us? Or do we believe on our own free will? Also do you agree that obeying Gods commandments are works? Thanks, so you believe the good works you do, is not you doing them but God doing those works through you. aka...

Peter taught what I teach on baptism and all my brethren around the world are not excluded. So did Paul, Acts 22:16. I've still yet to see a new testament scripture from you that says baptism is for the already saved. Cornelius is certainly not an example. Never heard any apostle teach it. Only...

No, I believe in what Paul, Jesus and all the apostles doctrine. That's what I follow, Acts 2:42. John records that Jesus teaches faith is a work, John 6:28-29. Do you believe when you obey Gods commandments that you have done a work?

Excellent point, If ye(that's us being told to do something) keep in memory, Our salvation is dependent on us keeping, believing the gospel of Jesus Christ. Paul never taught we do nothing and God does everything. If so, don't bother teaching others the gospel, that's Gods job, He does...

Where was I wrong now? You say we do nothing to be saved. Where does the Bible teach this?

All new testament christians believe what Jesus said, Mark 16:15-16. I'm not beyond help are you?

How would you know? You don't know me from Adam. Its unwise and dis-honest to make claims about others you know little to nothing about. I would never make a statement of fact about how much you study, the way you did with me. Now Ephesians 2:8-9, - Where and How were the Ephesians saved? I'll...

Yes, help me find your doctrine on baptism being for the purpose of outward sign of an already saved believer. I've never found the NT, teach this doctrine on baptism in Jesus' name. All I've found is baptism is for the lost to contact the blood of Christ, Matthew 26:28, - For this is My blood...