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Um do you expect to be taken seriously at all? I hope not. These kinds of responses are utterly ridiculous and do nothing to support your case. You are obviously incapable of defending your doctrine, so I'm not going to waste any more time on you.

Visit my thread " before the flood is actually after the flood." Three comings VIVID AND BIBLICAL. That alone destroys any hope of a postrib rapture. The job of the postrib rapture adherent is to make those three biblical comings into one. Then explain why we have multiple verses while they...

You just admitted, they can not make a biblical argument. Their deal is so weak We have verses. Yes that bible " dies hard". ...and they are forced to go against that die hard bible.

You just provided passages aligning with a pretrib rapture ! Thanks! You are convincing me that after the tribulation Angels gather in heaven. Yes they do! the Saints are in heaven, and the angels gather them to the white horses! that is after the tribulation. You need to understand ,that...

Then discard the pretrib rapture verses Then pretend you actually have a single postrib rapture verse. Then keep the lie and illusion that the " other comings" in the bible are actually Jesus in a magical transfiguration of different entities The guy on a cloud with no horses or sword...

In your mind, how do they survive?

You ever do a tiny bit of research? Maybe drop the personal attacking.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Zero idea.

Wo Wow You along with 2 members commending your antisemitism.

14 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. 2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers...

Ok. Great?! You never answered my 2 questions asking you to defend your theory You just went postal and freaked out on me.

Duh. Read Rev 14 and get back to me. Keep fantasizing there is no mention of the 144k being in heaven ahead if the main harvest of vs 14. Maybe some reading classes will help.

That harvest of vs14 FOLLOWS the 144k firstfruits. It is the main Jewish harvest spoken of in romans.. No white horses. The Bible is not confusion of Jesus sitting on a cloud holding a sickle, while at the same time returning with million of white horses with a sword into warfare. Such folly...

Then explain Rev 14:14 , and agree the Holy Spirit did NOT botch anything in the Bible. You will focus on some non issue in my post and somehow think you are on the same page. I am saying HE DID NOT BOTCH ANYTHING (It is your doctrine that insists HE DID). You need to ask yourself and do a soul...

Yawn We all believe that

What do postribs do with the fact that all take the mark???? Is it automatically transposed to "some"? What do you do with th the passage that says power is given to the Antichrist to overcome the Saints. ? What do you do with the passage that says, of the Believers in the tribulation...

Thank you!

Post Rev 14:14 for us and show us how the Holy Spirit botched that gathering of Jesus into a gathering opposite your doctrine. No phony personal baloney. No dodge No accusations to deflect from the Bible. Post the passage and make it fit your theory. Tools needed: 1 a bible 2 honesty

Take a look at your link: "Revelation 19:7–9 prompts two major questions: When and where will the marriage and marriage supper of the Lamb take place? At least three answers to these questions have been proposed. First, the marriage will occur when the Church is raptured to meet Christ in the...

Give a verse that says that the 144k evangelize. Then one that says the marriage feast is after the trib ( which would be in direct contention with Jesus words)