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  1. St. SteVen

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    @One 2 question is asking Jack which translation of the Bible is the "Christian" Bible. It's a good question, which Jack refuses to answer. If Jack does answer, his false claims against One 2 question will fall apart. [
  2. St. SteVen

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    Agree. It pretty much becomes like any other religion of man at that point. And those who practice it that way accuse Spirit-filled believers of "over-spiritualizing" it. [
  3. St. SteVen

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    Amazing. You have asked him a half dozen times. Yet he has failed to answer. How come? (I wonder) https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/interesting-that-the-bible-is-the-word-of-god-unless-someone-quotes-a-translation-you-disagree-with.57779/ Interesting that the Bible is "the Word of...
  4. St. SteVen

    Is the "free gift" of salvation really free? - Honestly?

    So, it really isn't free then? My point in this topic, is that the "free" aspect is not clear to the prospect being evangelized. Therefore, it becomes a questionable sales tactic. [
  5. St. SteVen

    Speak to the value of following Jesus

    Ritajanice said: @St. SteVen ..what does over spiritualism mean? How can anyone who is Born Again, not be spiritual? It occurs to me that this is a result of Unitarianism. He does not believe that the Holy Spirit is a person. And anything beyond following the dry written...
  6. St. SteVen

    Speak to the value of following Jesus

    Not what I said. Got it? [
  7. St. SteVen

    Speak to the value of following Jesus

    Good question. To be clear, he wrote: "... rampant over-spiritualization of Christianity." I suppose he means finding spiritual meaning in every aspect of our life. This in reaction to my question about whether a person should ask God to change them (spiritually) rather than change their...
  8. St. SteVen

    Speak to the value of following Jesus

    As if there aren't two aspects to this question. I'm not campaigning AGAINST God's ability to change circumstances. God is just as capable of transforming a life as he is of transforming a circumstance. Yet you claim this "directly contracts Jesus..." ??? Jesus asked for the cross to be...
  9. St. SteVen

    Speak to the value of following Jesus

    St. SteVen said: In fact, we can look to God to change us, rather than change our circumstance. Seriously? As if God is in the business of saving us from our circumstances rather than transforming us to live above our circumstances. What you would call the "rampant...
  10. St. SteVen

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    New topic: https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/speak-to-the-value-of-following-jesus.68764/#post-2026154 [
  11. St. SteVen

    Speak to the value of following Jesus

    Right. We are not a hopeless victim of circumstance. In fact, we can look to God to change us, rather than change our circumstance. A benefit the world cannot comprehend. [
  12. St. SteVen

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    Why are you bearing false witness? Are you hoping to enter the fire? [
  13. St. SteVen

    Is the "free gift" of salvation really free? - Honestly?

    Wow. You and I are thinking along the same lines. I just posted this topic before reading your post. https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/speak-to-the-value-of-following-jesus.68764/ [
  14. St. SteVen

    Speak to the value of following Jesus

    Typically evangelizing the "lost" focuses on why Christianity is true. A convincing argument is hoped to win the day and produce a new convert. Assuming all the concerns of the prospect can be dissuaded. However, I was thinking this morning about the day-to-day benefits. The positive...
  15. St. SteVen

    Is the "free gift" of salvation really free? - Honestly?

    This is the evangelical bait-and-switch. Where's the ethics in that? Should people be tricked into the kingdom? Do we lead someone to Christ and then cut them loose? Nope. They need to be discipled, right? So we pile on the expectations. - Daily Bible reading and prayer. - Regular church...
  16. St. SteVen

    In exile from the church - disconnected from what?

    Whether by personal decision, or being forced out, some (or many?) are exiled from the institution of the church. I did some quick research to see if there are any statistics on Christians leaving the church. Wanting to know if it really is just SOME, or if it is MANY. (probably many, but...)...
  17. St. SteVen

    DECONSTRUCTION - How far is too far?

    I emailed a good pastor friend with my concerns. I told him that at my present trajectory I would probably be an atheist in five years or less. I said that atheism was really just an over-reaction to the questioning. That was very freeing and reassuring to me. I retained my faith and my...
  18. St. SteVen

    Why did God give you a husband?

    That's key. [
  19. St. SteVen

    DECONSTRUCTION - How far is too far?

    Most deconstructionists that I know HAVE left the faith. But it was a process. At some point they crossed a line. [
  20. St. SteVen

    Why did God give you a husband?

    My wife and I figured out that one of the schemes had to do with altering our "hearing". Many couples will get into these "You said...", "No I didn't." arguments. "That's what you said, I heard you say it. (not necessarily) Beware. (deaf and dumb spirits) We clarify what we heard by saying...