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    Did Jesus say that adultery is grounds for divorce? - Nope.

    From the OP. For the Israelites, a bride's parents presented her as a virgin to her husband-to-be. The law of Moses made a provision for this. If the husband-to-be discovered that he had been given a bride that was not a virgin, he could divorce her. (for fornication) Unfortunately, some new...
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    Did Jesus say that adultery is grounds for divorce? - Nope.

    St. SteVen said: See the NIV translation below, taking note of verse 10 as well as verse 9. (at the very bottom of this post) The point is the comparison. [
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    Did Jesus say that adultery is grounds for divorce? - Nope.

    The position of the church and society at large is mistaken as to what Jesus was quoted as saying in the gospels. IMHO Let's discuss. Questions: 1) What did Jesus actually say? 2) Why did he say it? 3) If we got this wrong, where do we go from here? See the OP for more info. [
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    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    Reminder: No one in the Hebrews chapter eleven Hall of Faith had a Bible. The Bible is a great resource, but is a poor replacement for the source. [
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    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    A sobering reminder for Jack to consider. Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit (the unforgivable sin) is to attribute the work of God to Satan. [
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    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    And you reward him with hostility. Who's the bad guy here? [
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    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/the-accuser-of-the-brethren-is-it-you.68614/ [
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    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    Probably because it upsets the status quo. https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/the-potential-treachery-of-doctrine-my-way-or-the-highway.56243/ [
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    Kolasis - William Barclay

    - Is the wrath of God timoria or kolasis? - What is aionios kolasis? - How is aionios used in the Old Testament? - What was the original meaning of kolasis? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Kolasis - William Barclay (see the OP) [
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    Why pray for God to CHANGE your circumstances instead of CHANGING you?

    Something to consider. At the risk of seeming callous... God may have allowed your circumstances for a reason. We've all been there. When we encounter a tough situation we want to escape. To free ourselves from the pain, aggravation, or discomfort. Oftentimes God has a better solution than...
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    Thoughts on Invocation and Benediction

    Recent discussions on the forum got me to thinking about this. I was a bit bothered by the use of Matthew 18:20 as either an apologetic, or invocation. "For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them." - Matthew 18:20 NIV The problem being contextual. Not what Matthew 18:18-20...
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    Is heaven only for Christians? - That's convenient

    The great physician can resurrect a soul from the shipwreck of life and make it sea-worthy again. 1 Corinthians 3:14-15 NIV If what has been built survives, the builder will receive a reward. 15 If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved— even though only as one...
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    Is heaven only for Christians? - That's convenient

    Is a ship destroyed by barnacle removal? [
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    The potential conceit of doctrinal individuality

    With many routes to the same destination. [
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    The potential conceit of doctrinal individuality

    Exploring the many facets of the issues of doctrinal unity and individuality. Issues range from the dictates of religious institutional tyranny on one extreme end of the spectrum, to freewheeling excesses of biblical interpretation on the other extreme end. Seeking balance somewhere in the...
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    Is heaven only for Christians? - That's convenient

    All those things, as negative as they be, are a critical part of they story. The brutality of the created against the creator. The absolute horror. Matthew 20:21-23 NIV “What is it you want?” he asked. She said, “Grant that one of these two sons of mine may sit at your right and the other at...
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    The accuser of the brethren - Is it you?

    No worries. I just wanted to clarify. [
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    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/the-accuser-of-the-brethren-is-it-you.68614/ [
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    What is the affect on The Fall and The Atonement, if Adam was not the first human?

    I have met many Christians that accept evolutionary science as the means of creation. I don't subscribe to that view personally, but it raises some issues. If their science is right, what becomes of the first Adam? They seem to have chosen, and have no regrets. They're fine with a...