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  1. Jun2u

    The Law & The Gospel

    Unfortunately, the passage concerned is Hebrews 6:4-6 which speaks that there will be “some” (in a church setting), who will fall away. I was merely responding to Barrd's post #10 where she claimed those who will fall away are Christians, just as you do but in a different twist, by saying these...
  2. Jun2u

    The Doctrine of OSAS

    The Barrd, on 07 Oct 2015 - 3:11 PM, said: The scriptures you've quoted above are NOT speaking about a child of God or Christians , as you put it, rather the word “some” in Heb 6:4 must be qualified, and these are they who are the Tares that God allowed to grow together with the Wheat in the...
  3. Jun2u

    The Doctrine of OSAS

    Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: 4 According as he hath chosen (elected) us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: 5 Having...
  4. Jun2u

    The Law & The Gospel

    The scriptures you've quoted above are NOT speaking about a child of God or Christians , as you put it, rather the word “some” in Heb 6:4 must be qualified, and these are they who are the Tares that God allowed to grow together with the Wheat in the church environment. The Tares are the unsaved...
  5. Jun2u

    The Law & The Gospel

    Yes, by comparing scripture with scripture and spiritual things with spiritual, however, there are people whom God will send a strong delusion that they will believe a lie. These are they that say God's salvation is insufficient, that after a person has been given eternal life he can still fall...
  6. Jun2u

    The Doctrine of OSAS

    I beg to differ, but Paul never started a church, If anything Peter could fill the bill, but he too cannot start a church! Jesus said in Mt 16:18: “And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it”...
  7. Jun2u

    The Doctrine of OSAS

    The above is a false statement! If the atonement is for all men and sins then it will mean that no one will come under God's judgment yet the Bible is very clear that hell will heavily be populated. Why is this so, could it be Jesus did not save everyone, but only His elect? Another false...
  8. Jun2u

    Analysis of 1 Timothy 4:1 and how it disproves the OSAS doctrine

    You do err not knowing the scriptures! What part of the parable of the Wheat and Tares is Satan seen as being expelled from heaven? I can't see a more accurate explanation in the parable than to what I've already alluded to above. Matthew 12:28-29 reads: 28 But if I cast out devils by the...
  9. Jun2u

    The Book Of Enock

    The book of Enoch was ultimately rejected in 364 AD? Are you serious.? Do you know what you are really declaring? Of course the book was rejected because the Bible was completed. The book would have been added to the Bible, and would have been contrary to Revelation 22:18! Don't you think God...
  10. Jun2u

    The Book Of Enock

    Please don't teach people to accept a book written by anyone that is alien to the Bible! You are in danger of the plagues (hell) written in Revelation 22:18 by asking people to add and accept a wrong teaching. The one He wrote which is circumscribe by the Bible alone and in its' entirety...
  11. Jun2u

    The Book Of Enock

    ENOCH COULD NOT HAVE WRITTEN A BOOK!!! Writing began with Moses and Enoch lived before Moses and could not have written a book. What had to have happened was that the Holy Spirit told Jude about the utterance of Enoch which Enoch prophesied back there in ancient times that Jude wrote in Jude...
  12. Jun2u

    Analysis of 1 Timothy 4:1 and how it disproves the OSAS doctrine

    You pay too much homage to Satan. He is a defeated foe. As a true believer, he has nothing on me. Jesus said: “Resist the devil and he will flee from you”. James 4:7 I'm not familiar with John Calvin's work, but if he and I and other Christians agree on a conclusion with certain doctrines, it...
  13. Jun2u

    Analysis of 1 Timothy 4:1 and how it disproves the OSAS doctrine

    I beg to differ. Just because you didn't see anything in my post that related to the OP, it doesn't mean it's not there. Who are the “some” that will depart from the faith in 1Timothy 4:1? Reading between the lines, you seem to assume that the “some” are believers. But that can't be since the...
  14. Jun2u

    Analysis of 1 Timothy 4:1 and how it disproves the OSAS doctrine

    Those who are trying to refute the term OSAS and the word of God does not understand and will never understand the meaning of salvation, because: 1 They do not know the word of God. 2 They do not know how to read the word of God 3 They do not know how God wrote the Bible 4 They do not know...
  15. Jun2u

    The feetwashing

    The Bible is a historical as well as a spiritual book. John 13:5-11 5 After that he poureth water into a bason, and began to wash the disciples’ feet, and to wipe them with the towel wherewith he was girded. 6 Then cometh he to Simon Peter: and Peter saith unto him, Lord, dost thou wash my...
  16. Jun2u

    The Doctrine of OSAS

    ATP, Why keep entertaining these who does not understand the concept of salvation? They will never, never understand what they are saved from or what happened when Jesus went to the cross. These same people who call themselves Christians are not teachable. A child of God will always search the...
  17. Jun2u

    ANALYSIS OF MATTHEW 24:12-13 - WHY IT DISPROVES OSAS

    True believers are the only ones given eternal life at the moment of salvation and given a brand new soul that desires not to want to sin again. These are they who will endure to the end. Joh 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them...
  18. Jun2u

    The Doctrine of OSAS

    Rockytopva on Sept 10, 2015 -11:55 PM, said: “OSAS believers are also against a works based salvation…” I guess you have not read Ephesians 2:8-9 and if you have, did not really understood the meaning. Just as you did not understand the gist of Luke 13:6-9. If you are going to follow the work...
  19. Jun2u

    The Doctrine of OSAS

    The Barrd, on 10 Sept 2015 -3:30 PM, said: If that is the case, then all of your sins have not been forgiven. No “saved” person can be condemned for sins that are forgiven Ro. 8:1. Consider Romans Chapter 7 To God Be The Glory
  20. Jun2u

    The Doctrine of OSAS

    Most people cannot comprehend the idea “Once Saved Always Saved” is because they do not understand the concept of salvation. However, if you ask: What are you saved from? They are quick to answer, why from my sins of course. How many of your sins did Christ pay to set you free? Again they are...