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I agree Marty. Good thread. Yes Think. The Lord comes with his Angels to execute judgment, as these verses show..., Jude 14 It was also about these men that Enoch, in the seventh generation from Adam, prophesied, saying, “Behold, the Lord came with many thousands of His holy ones, 15 to...

Pick any reference from the NT regarding His coming and you will see he is saying that. God help you if you do not see that.

Clearly he left no room for confusion. You only have to take Peters advice and read Pauls letters regarding this issue of the blessed hope of his coming. It clearly results into an expectation of a NHNE at his coming , as Jesus had said that heaven and earth would pass at his coming. It's...

Jesus has provided the way. He is the ark today. He will come and receive his own while the rest perish along with the heaven and the earth. The ungodly will suffer the same fate as those in Noah's day. This is repeated many times in the NT. 2Thess 1 5 This is a positive proof of the righteous...

You should be listening to Jesus like John was. Jesus said in Matt 24, 35 Heaven and earth [as now known] will pass away, but My words will not pass away. 36 “But of that [exact] day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son [in His humanity], but the Father alone. 37...

It was a good try and I got myself a Cuban cigar. Reading Johns account is a little different than Matt etc.. John the Baptist was still alive at the time of John's temple cleansing in Jn 2. Note Jn 3:22 and the word After...., John’s Last Testimony 22 After these things Jesus and His...

:contemplate: I think you will find that this is a different temple visit / cleansing that took place at the beginning of his ministry. The one in Matt, Mk and Luke was at the end of his ministry.

So why did the STONE temple come tumbling down at the time of their very real exile??? Did the disciples point out how beautiful Jesus elbows were and how adorned he was with the smell of sweet perfume? lk 21 5 As some were talking about the temple, that it was decorated with beautiful stones...

o_O Surely not

You didnt address my post.:IDK:

Are you speaking of Dan 7? The Son of Man Presented 13 “I kept looking in the night visions, And behold, on the clouds of heaven One like a Son of Man was coming, And He came up to the Ancient of Days And was presented before Him. 14 “And to Him (the Messiah) was given dominion (supreme...

Will you deny that Jesus was clearly speaking of the events that transpired a generation later. (Temple destruction and exile into the nations) Why would he not warn the people of the imminent terrible events of 70 AD and warn of a future event instead? Nuts.

You have the wrong decree. :) Ezra was instrumental in restoring the people back under the word of God. That was the most important issue regarding the nation's restoration. Who better to lead them than Ezra:eek:? [ The light said] Again, you are avoiding the truth. Show me the quote where I...

You are avoiding the truth. Scripture makes this work. Jesus cannot possibly be cut off before he arrives as the anointed Messiah after 7 and 62 weeks. 25 So you are to know and understand that from the issuance of the command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until [the coming of] the...

You continue to avoid the obvious. The whole 70week discourse is about the coming of the anointed one to bring atonement in 70 weeks AFTER 7 and 62 weeks have elapsed. His forerunner would prepare his way that he be recognized for all Israel to see.... something you clearly reject in favor of a...

So you agree that Jesus has made atonement once and for all? Do You agree Jesus has entered the most Holy place having achieved Eternal redemption through his own blood? How many weeks did God decree for these things to happen? If even one of those 6points is seen to be fulfilled, then they all...

Hi Truth7t7 I thought you didnt believe in a thousand years after the second coming. :confused: So when do you believe the non believers have their resurrection? And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who...

Yes I believe in a bodily resurrection of those 2 groups at the end. However the first resurrection refers to this in Jn 5..., 24 “I assure you and most solemnly say to you, the person who hears My word [the one who heeds My message], and believes and trusts in Him who sent Me, has (possesses...

But our assurance of not being hurt by the second death is not based on a physical resurrection but a spiritual one in Jn 5.

Exactly. What does every single reference regarding the Lords second coming allude to? Premill or Amill scenario?