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  1. jeffweeder

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Satans activity in all unrestrained power goes forth one last time just before the judgment and destruction of the deluded at the second coming. 2Thess 2 7 For the mystery of lawlessness [rebellion against divine authority and the coming reign of lawlessness] is already at work; [but it is...
  2. jeffweeder

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The disciples that Jesus personally chose clearly misunderstood the OT as written. Jesus had to open their minds to understand it. Therefore You should allow the NT to open yours. Lk 24 25 Then Jesus said to them, “O foolish men, and slow of heart to trust and believe in everything that the...
  3. jeffweeder

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Yep. Matt 8 11 I say to you that many [Gentiles] will come from east and west, and will sit down [to feast at the table, and enjoy God’s promises] with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven [because they accepted Me as Savior], 12 while the sons and heirs of the kingdom [the...
  4. jeffweeder

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Sorry I missed this, Jeff. Now I understand where you are coming from. Let's throw another stone in the game. If I am following along correctly to what you are saying, I believe you are saying that the great tribulation happened in 70 AD. No. It just began in AD 70. Not only does it affect the...
  5. jeffweeder

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    That would be the one Jesus refers to in the gospels and Revelation. ;)
  6. jeffweeder

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    So you have the heaven and earth passing away twice :Ohpleze:
  7. jeffweeder

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    That's pretty logical. But the big problem is Matthew 24 9 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign...
  8. jeffweeder

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Matt and Mark were not there either. They all got the knowledge through either Peter, James, John or Andrew. Jesus didnt appear to luke with a separate discourse. The setting is the same for all 3. Jesus was leaving the Temple [Something else you should notice. Remember when I said that...
  9. jeffweeder

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Hi Light, Lets look at all 3 Mk 13 13 As He was coming out of the temple [grounds], one of His disciples said to Him, “Teacher, look what wonderful stones and what wonderful buildings!” 2 Jesus replied to him, “You see these great buildings? Not one stone will be left on another which will not...
  10. jeffweeder

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    No probs Truth7t7. I see generation as this unbelieving race, while I see all believers as, “But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:”—1...
  11. jeffweeder

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Glad you believe the heaven and the earth pass away after this millennium period. Matt 24 35 Heaven and earth [as now known] will pass away, but My words will not pass away. 36 “But of that [exact] day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son [in His humanity], but the...
  12. jeffweeder

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Yes to Matt 24:15 No to Matt 24:21,--- The GT started but did not conclude in 70 AD. it starts off as wrath and vengeance toward the Jewish people and ends up going global. Matt 24 15 “So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place...
  13. jeffweeder

    The founding fathers of modern-day Premillennialism were heretics.

    Why isnt it literally spelled out in the rest of the NT? Some will then say its figuratively spelled out Lol.
  14. jeffweeder

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    According to Luke Jerusalem surrounded by armies led to the desolation of the temple. That happened. Matt 24 15 “So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the...
  15. jeffweeder

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    I believe the GT began for the Jews when Rome destroyed the temple and led the survivor's captive in exile. Tribulation didnt stop there for them but continued abroad. Similar to this..., Deut 28 64 “And the Lord will scatter you among all peoples, from one end of the earth to the other, and...
  16. jeffweeder

    The theological fallacy of a spiritual 'resurrection'

    Lol. Have a look at all the English translations for those verses. Was Jesus wrong in Matt 25?' Matt 25 31 When the Son of Man comes in His glory (His majesty and splendor), and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32 All nations will be gathered before...
  17. jeffweeder

    The theological fallacy of a spiritual 'resurrection'

    Think again. Read 2Thess 1 again slowly and carefully. 5 This is positive proof of the just and right judgment of God to the end that you may be deemed deserving of His kingdom [a plain token of His fair verdict which designs that you should be made and counted worthy of the kingdom of God]...
  18. jeffweeder

    The Big Bang Theory Has Been Debunked????

    Hi there. The chicken...and a rooster. Male and female, he created them so they could multiply. [Now matter what there was Yahweh as a creator God....but then how did it happen and how does it work.] How indeed.
  19. jeffweeder

    The Big Bang Theory Has Been Debunked????

    Where did all those elements that facilitated the so-called big bang come from?
  20. jeffweeder

    The theological fallacy of a spiritual 'resurrection'

    Many scriptures disagree with you. Read 2Thess 1 again slowly and carefully. 5 This is positive proof of the just and right judgment of God to the end that you may be deemed deserving of His kingdom [a plain token of His fair verdict which designs that you should be made and counted worthy of...