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  1. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Do thyself no harm and debate.
  2. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    No doubt. We are included in future national Israel's covenant through a partial dark glass way. All nations can participate in this pre-millennial experience. It will blow us all away when the dark glasses are removed and we see everything face to face. No wonder the partial gifts will...
  3. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Wrong... 9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12...
  4. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The preterist and Amil says.."Aaarrgh"!
  5. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    11 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: 2 And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord; 3 And shall...
  6. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The first resurrection is history? Please give us the date of this divinely historic event?
  7. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    ex·e·gete noun plural noun: exegetes an expounder or textual interpreter, especially of scripture. LOL
  8. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I quote it verbatim and it exposes itself? It disagree's with itself? This is why it needs a deep, internal explanation of itself? I can quote a passage, only highlighting without saying a word and you meltdown because I did not comment on it. This syndrome of seeking extraBiblical exegeses...
  9. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You see the glass half empty and I see it half full. The church ADDED to itself in Acts 2(by baptizing the 3000 in the name of Jesus for the remission of their sins). You see it as subtracting. It bums you out to think of this... 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every...
  10. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I cannot do a line by line exegesis because I am in agreement with the verses and they need no extra Biblical input. An exegesis means "con job" in lay terms. "Hey, you exegete what you think and I will exegete what I think and let's combine our exegeses into a new concept"! "We can even...
  11. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Notice, the Amil(and preterist) spends a lifetime saying the millenial is impossible and not to trust what you read at face value in Rev or the Prophets. The rest of us spend our lives telling folks to trust and believe these passages at face value. What a contrast.
  12. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Was Peter "judging" the 3000 here?... 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,... Well?
  13. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Sure... 11 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein. 2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy...
  14. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    No relation here?... 11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.... 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great...
  15. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I post mass verses with one line or two of comment, tops. You post various verses and add mass commentary as an "exegesis"...LOL
  16. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The future fulfilled promise to the father towards their descendants are indeed future. We have been included in them. They however, are not fully implemented, as you are using partial gifts and are limited to seeing through a glass darkly. But, if you want to pretend that you have it all and...
  17. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Because it is related to prophecy doctrine.
  18. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 But the rest...