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  1. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh...
  2. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. As per... See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is...
  3. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I see. You think Rev 21 happens before Rev 3. Mkay.
  4. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God .. Now you know.
  5. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I see now... 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized BY THE HOLY GHOST every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. LOL
  6. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    They are more honest than the RCC daughters(trins) that hate water baptism, mocking(by debunking) Mark16:16, Acts 2:38, 8:16 and 19:5.
  7. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I am not oneness. I wouldn't call the folks that obey Acts 2:38 a cult when you refuse it altogether. Thou art the man.
  8. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I'm not, just getting to know where you stand. Kinda like arguing the validity of the Bible with someone. Need to know a little background first.
  9. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Was the name of Jesus invoked over you upon immersion or Father/Son/Spirit?
  10. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Eventually. Remember, the day is preceded by this verse... 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering...
  11. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The book of Rev is definitely written in chronological order. The 7 churches are in the first 3 chapters and the end of the world/new world in the last 3. All leads up accordingly.
  12. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You need to really teach what you think for all to see, rather than talk about passages. Break them down sentence by sentence with your redefinitions for us.
  13. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The RCC is the mother of all Acts 2:38 skippers.
  14. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God .. Period. No saved, unsaved, then resaved.
  15. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God ..
  16. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I think the problem here is you Amil fellers think Rev 20 should be before Rev 19.
  17. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I believe that WHEN I was saved from sin, I was simultaneously saved from hell as I was baptized in the name of Jesus.
  18. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13...
  19. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Did you get baptized in the water by immersion, in the name of Jesus? Yes or no?
  20. Truther

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I don't even remember what we are bickering about now...LOL