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    JESUS, the Holy Spirit, the Only True God.

    There is no doubt that the body that is laid in the grave will not be the same body that is raised in the resurrection. The body in the grave is what the bible calls the "natural" body. It is made of mortal flesh and bone and blood. The body that is raised in the resurrection will be made up...
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    JESUS, the Holy Spirit, the Only True God.

    Now you are telling the truth. Natural flesh is not the same as the resurrected flesh. That is correct, but it is resurrected flesh and bone (Jesus did not say blood). IOW after Jesus was resurrected, if he had stepped onto a weight machine he would have registered 180 pounds (just guessing)...
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    Are Jehovah’s Witness Christians?

    I agree with you on this post. Thank you.
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    Are Jehovah’s Witness Christians?

    Nobody knows who the 144,000 are yet. So I cannot tell if I am one of them. You saw what I believe about the nature of God. Does that sound like I am a JW? I asked you what you believe the nature of God is. But the real question is: Do you have to believe in the same nature of God as you...
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    The divided Christ

    So, do you belong to the true church? Is there a true church? There was in the first century. Does it still exist somewhere?
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    Are Jehovah’s Witness Christians?

    Wow, so you are talking for all Christians? I am a Christian, and I believe that there is a God the Father, who is distinct, and is not God the Son, who is also distinct and is not God the Holy Spirit, and God the Holy Spirit, but They are God. What do forum members believe about God the...
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    Are Jehovah’s Witness Christians?

    Jesus is not God the Father, right?
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    Are Jehovah’s Witness Christians?

    Actually, this is the bible: Acts 11:26 King James Version (KJV) 26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch. I...
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    Genesis 1:26 Revisited, the Ordinal “FIRST”

    I have never said that 2 created? Where do you get that idea? I have always said HE created only, but Genesis 1:26, 3:22, and 11:7 tell us that, although HE created alone, there were others that were with HIM and witnessed his creation. You cannot get around it. It is too prominent in...
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    JESUS, the Holy Spirit, the Only True God.

    All of your scholarship and the pouring out of his spirit and he is the first and the last does not overcome the fact that Jesus has a body of flesh and bone and sits on the right hand of God in the heavens today. There is far too much scritpure that declares this, you cannot refute what Jesus...
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    JESUS, the Holy Spirit, the Only True God.

    You will have to quote me a scripture after the resurrection that shows that Jesus switched back into a spirit only, after he showed his apostles his flesh and bone body. Yes the natural body is raised to a new and perfect resurrected body of flesh and bone and spirit, it is a spiritual body...
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    they stormed the capitol....

    We are finding that cnn infested the tip of the rioters with inbedded reporters that were encouraging people to break into the capitol. Also it is clear now that there were advanced plans to storm the capitol by groups such as antifa and black lives matter to create a false flag to blame Trump...
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    Genesis 1:26 Revisited, the Ordinal “FIRST”

    101G says: Genesis 1:26, and Genesis 3:22, and Genesis 11:7 clearly states there are other besides God. I simply disagree that God was talking to his future self. I believe there were other persons there at God's side to witness His great works. If the "us" is "him" he would not have used...
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    JESUS, the Holy Spirit, the Only True God.

    101G says: The part of the scripture that you quoted makes us believe that Jesus, being able to walk through walls, has a body of spirit only. it However, the rest of that scripture makes us believe Jesus has a multi-quality body of flesh and bone and spirit. So here is the whole scripture you...
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    Genesis 1:26 Revisited, the Ordinal “FIRST”

    Thank you for making this very clear. The Holy Spirit is the Ordinal First, and the Ordinal Last, so it is the Holy Spirit that is the ONE God. Thank you.
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    Genesis 1:26 Revisited, the Ordinal “FIRST”

    In Genesis 1:26 God said let "us" make man in "our" image and likeness.... In Genesis 1:27 God then did it alone. He is the only creator, but obviously others were there to witness it. The same as in Genesis 11:6-8 In Genesis 11:7 the Lord said let "us" go down....... In Genesis 11:8 the Lord...
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    JESUS, the Holy Spirit, the Only True God.

    So Jesus does not have a perfect resurrected body of tangible flesh and bone and spirit, as taught us in the bible. (see Luke 24:39) So you do not believe there is a throne of God anywhere in the universe? So when the bible talks about a throne it is only metaphorical or something else?
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    JESUS, the Holy Spirit, the Only True God.

    You say it was an angel that spoke from the heavens during the baptism, or you would not have referred me to Abrahams event. Right? Was this the voice of the "ordinal first"? OR was the ordinal first also in the ordinal second coming out of the Jordan river? So, "the diversity, the offspring...
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    JESUS, the Holy Spirit, the Only True God.

    It is a bit confusing. How can peope that overcame the world be sitting with Jesus in his throne at the exact same time that Jesus is sitting with his Father in his throne. Perhaps Adam Clarke's commentary can help: "Jesus has conquered, and is set down with the Father upon the Father's throne...
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    JESUS, the Holy Spirit, the Only True God.

    So do you think it was an angel that spoke from the heavens at the baptism? If you do, post me a scripture that puts everything to rest, and proves without a doubt it was an angel and not God speaking from the heavens at the baptism. Not at Abrahams event, 2000 years before the baptism, (that...