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There seems to be an assumption that I don’t want to walk the path of god. That’s incorrect. I search to see if my question is already a topic. I was on another thread about what it means to ‘perish’. From that perspective, I’m not confined to eternity. I would just cease to exist. I find...

It doesn’t matter if your parents are not citizens if you were born in country. Don’t know why we’re debating constitutional law on this site. Don’t know what this thread is doing in this group. This belongs in the nonchristian forum. A Christian debate topic would be ‘which candidate is...

So how does this affect the price of rice?

I think the exception applies to people not born in the country, but both parents were citizens at the time of birth. For example, John McCain was not born in the us, but since his parents were both citizens he was eligible.

Would fallen angels be considered heavenly beings? If fallen angels are still among us, are they still having sex with us? After the fallen angels episode, and before Able died, god made it so there would be no sin in heaven?

Can we drill deeper into ‘perish’? Every version I have seen uses this exact word. Curiously, the alternate consequence wording varies. Most versions read ‘everlasting life’, but young’s literal translation reads ‘life age-during’. But the word ‘perish’ never changes. In the end 1 of 2...

You are not the one to decide if I am saved. I could be the most pious person on the planet. I’m not. Although, the most pious would never admit to being so. You might also think about what it means to celebrate someone else’s misfortune. Isn’t heaven the reward for doing god’s work on earth...

Is that god, or this that just dudes?

It seems I am confined, through no choice of my own, to live for eternity, either in heaven or hell. Is it bad that I don’t find that appealing? Certainly no one finds the prospect of hell appealing. The heaven part sounds really nice, but for eternity? If I don’t have a choice, what about...

If there were no suffering, would you feel the same way?

My actions are my own, without coercion or threat. If those are present then I didn’t freely act.

He called when the sun was up day. He created everything in 6 days , rested on the 7th. He told us not to work on the 7th day and instead keep it holy. Wasn’t that Peter verse part of the lesson that one day god will come? That day could be tomorrow, it could be in a thousand years; to god...

I’m not weighing in on the fallen angel theory. I read ‘heavenly beings’ and think they come from heaven. Seems like a sin to take a woman and have sex with her. Therefore wonder if sin exists in heaven.

I’m not verse quoting guy. It’s tedious and unnecessary. People have bibles and can look it up on their own. I’m also not good at it so here goes. Genesis 6:1 When the human race had spread all over the world, and daughters were being born, Genesis 6:2 some of the heavenly beings saw that these...

If I’m following this thread correctly, there is no proof that there are fallen angels. I didn’t see that there was a doubt satan existed. Where did satan come from? Is there any doubt satan is full of sin? Then is satan dead?

I don’t understand. It is from there that I wondered if there was sin in heaven. Do you want me to copy the verses?

I believe it’s genesis 6 and exodus 20. Wouldn’t it also have been the same realm where Lucifer developed his pride?

The question for me is rooted in why does there have to be so much suffering in the world. And satan appears to be the root of all this suffering. Why is satan needed? We already know what is right and wrong; we already have free will. Is it because without temptation, we would just do the...

I’m not out to change the world or anything. I’m just looking for better understanding.

Is it just me, or did god lose that bet? When I read Job, it seems like he did lose faith. He was strong at the beginning but in the end he questioned why he was suffering when he was sinless.