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You have it backwards. Read it the order that is appears. There is really no separation in order of events from chapter 19 to 20. Chapters and verses did not exist in the original manuscripts. In some cases, I think the Scribes improperly divided chapters. So it is always good to review the...

@WPM Thank you for your thread and posts, it helped me to delve deeper into the theology of the Millennial Kingdom. I now have even a better understanding of it. JESUS IS COMING SOON!

John saw heaven, but mostly he was given visions of the earthly events. " And I saw the souls of them that had been beheaded for the witness of Jesus" is a vision ON EARTH. What did you think, he saw spirit heads without bodies floating around in heaven? Never read anything by him. Nowhere, I...

Very true. In a deeper level it is a divisive tool, Law vs. Grace, being justified by faith. Paul corrected the Judaizers for insisting that Christians be circumcised too. The Hebrew Christians struggled with that and still some feel their calling and mission is to get everyone on board with...

Revelation is not chronological. Events are shown at different vantage points. They are written one after another but many things are happening simultaneously, they overlap. In Rev. 7:9 we see a multitude ( that no one could number), who just arrived in Heaven - who come out if the Great...

Like in any good book with 22 chapters, one doesn't disregard, skip or symbolically distort chapters 6 - 19, arrive at 20 and knows what the heck is going on. Revelation is the unveiling of Christ, the climax and consummation of history that began in the Garden of Eden or did you skip or...

No, no, you are doing the two-step ... backwards.

Opps, sorry, you just made me laugh.

Then how do you interpret " all former things have passed away" "For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth; and the former things shall not be remembered, nor come into mind." Is. 65:17 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor...

A small disagreement here brother. We are showing patience, self control and peace (so far), gentleness ( at times), kindness, generosity (offering our time and knowledge). We are not doing too bad! Lol ... and now that I can laugh, some joy too. Fruit all over the place.

That was a good point to bring up, although I do see lots of activity centered around Jerusalem in the end time scenario; it is not all about the past fate of the Jews - especially it was written around 95 AD. What clicked for me when I read your post, is that these Amils likely are...

Enjoy your posts. I am just curious, with the first heavens (atmosphere and the sun, moon, stars) being destroyed in a fervent heat ( 2 Peter 3:10) and being replaced by the New Jerusalem (which has no nights, moon or sun), how then are the "days, weeks or years" calculated?

1 Thessalonians 5:23 means "all of us." When Paul prays, "may your whole spirit and soul and body be kept blameless," he means, "your whole being." So we are composed of body, soul and spirit. Our spiritual part was dead and now is alive. So we functioned up until that point with just a soul...

Which is: And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. MATT. 10:28 I submit that this event is parallel with 2 Peter 3:10 and one in the same.

Agree! I remember that song long ago - when I was a hippie. But why conflate Astrology with the Bible? Just added prevarications. Actually it appears the Amills view of the last 2000 years to be in an Age of Aquarious - with Satan locked up: peace on earth, harmony, no more falsehoods ... Yah...

For those who care to do a more thorough study of Millennial Kingdom: https://bible.org/seriespage/second-coming-christ-and-millennial-kingdom

Revelation 20 gives us a general template of the Millennial Kingdom, which is why I presented additional supportive OT scriptures. But you deny them. Certainly in my above scenario, conjecture is used to fill in the blanks. Some aspects are left mysterious. But because of this mystery, we don't...

Right. We are in Christ and so spiritually connected. Since the Holy Spirit is omniscient, He speaks through Paul exactly what he needs to know and say to anyone. He informed Paul what's going on over there that needed attention. All scripture is God breathed. He does this all the time. I just...

Who claims that? All ungodly souls, all false religions and philosophies are destroyed during the Great Tribulation. Only believers in Christ occupy the earth. A remnant Israel population and anyone else in all the nations left behind AFTER the rapture (first resurrection), AND before the end of...

You are telling everyone in opposition to you the same thing. "It's just irrefutable". How about if I symbolically refute your thread then maybe someday you'll literally get it? I did say it was a literal key. You can't discern a simple sentence - what's the use to continue.