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Its so so clear the passage above is the second coming. Just back up a sentence or 2. 3 We ought always to give thanks to God for you, brethren, as is only fitting, because your faith is greatly enlarged, and the love of each one of you toward one another grows ever greater; 4 therefore, we...

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1 and 2 thess is about the Churches resurrection and Glorification that occurs at the GWT righteous judgment of God. And yes the wicked are then thrown into the fire AFTER the book of life is open and we are revealed as Glorified. 2Thess 1 This is a plain indication of God’s righteous judgment...

:confused: - I only posted what Jesus said lol. So you deny those scriptures I posted are the second coming ? I thought you said you believed the wicked are taken out from among of the righteous and thrown into the fire at the GWT. How could that be any different to what Jesus said in Matt 25...

I am glad you believe the casting into the fire is the GWTJ. I think you will find it is the second coming as I will show..., Matt 13 40 So just as the weeds are gathered up and burned with fire, so shall it be at the end of the age. 41 The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will...

In 70 weeks he will, to finish the transgression, to make an end of sin, to make atonement for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy place. Messiah brings this about through the shedding of his blood . Did he not make...

I agree. He is also returning to take vengeance out on those who have been afflicting us,- those who do not know God and obey the Gospel of Jesus , - on the same day and at the same time. 2Thess 1 This is a plain indication of God’s righteous judgment so that you will be considered worthy of...

I was hoping you would engage me in our conversation today. Never mind, and god bless.

what post was that?

Jn 5 21 For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so the Son also gives life to whom He wishes. 22 For not even the Father judges anyone, but He has given all judgment to the Son,

In a twinkling of an eye at the Lords coming we are put on his right to inherit what was prepared for us. At the same time the ungodly are placed on his left to inherit what prepared for the devil. Just got back from the dentist having a tooth extracted :sweat:

Wynona, God so loved the world that he gave his Son. It was Gods will. His ways are not our ways Amen

Amen . Scripture makes all the difference yes?

Why can't you back up your view with scripture like I did??? All you have here Bro is your opinion.

Premill is another 1000 years after the Lords coming. I also reject a rapture to heaven when Jesus returns. Yes the wrath is over when Jesus returns and the door to salvation is shut. Jesus then takes his seat as judge at the GWT.

You clearly misunderstand what the first resurrection is based on the evidence of those many scriptures that contradict your view. John is revealing to us what he revealed in Jn 5 in regard to how we escape the Judgment of the second death. John wouldnt contradict himself surely. Jn 5 24...

Premill plainly contradicts a whole list of other NT that I pointed out in EWQ thread just recently.

You have it backwards. Your view of Rev 20 contradicts the more straightforward passages in the rest of the NT regarding the judgment of the just and the unjust. There are many of them that you will do well to listen to. Rev 22 12 “Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to...

Romans 10:12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him;

Very well put. Its called amazing grace. Acts 17 30 So having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now proclaiming to mankind that all people everywhere are to repent, 31 because He has set a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed...