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WOMEN didn't have any say in the 'lack of' for men. Women had NO SAY in setting up the original 'rules'.

A wise woman wouldn't defer to a buffoon of a man...regardless if she was a feminist.

Then how come so many men don't even MENTION that to "HER"? Even ONCE in a while? How about recognizing that it takes TIME and EFFORT to make a nice home for 'you'? And for the ladies, how about some recognition toward your husbands for busting their butts for 45 hours that week...

Now, see? THAT I would LOVE!! For ME, it's not about the money or the "thing". It's about the TIME spent. During that time, were you laughing? Getting to know each other? Discovering shared interests? Beliefs? Likes? Dislikes? Tastes? LOL!!! I'll bring the wooden chopsticks and fancy...

Patriarchy isn't about survival. It's about EGO. The whole, "Men are BETTER than women. Men are SUPERIOR to women in ALL fashions. Men are MORE IMPORTANT than women." Yuck. Patriarchy taught men and women a whole bunch of LIES. Women can't POSSIBLY vote because it would disrupt their...

Your point being....? Sorry...not seeing your point. Not doing that either. But by the same token, aren't YOU giving men a pass for NOT suggesting an expensive place, because he doesn't want to set the stage for more expensive places in the future? We'll get into this more in a bit...

If that was true, it would be true for ALL people. No woman would EVER marry a POOR man. And yet they do. Every day.

And that's good! Would a MAN defer to a woman's judgment under any conditions where HE disagreed? You just SAID that a WISE man would defer to such a woman. Well, a wise woman would ALSO defer to such a man. Eh. So you say...

I recognize hypergamy in SOME women. Not all. And since it's not ALL it's not a "woman's nature" thing.

Wait a minute.... So, the guy, "Jim" asks her out on a date. He has NO IDEA where he'd want to go. Meanwhile, she ACCEPTS a 'vague' date. Sure! I'll go out to dinner with you! Uhhhhh...wait a minute. Meanwhile again the guy's idea of "dinner" is a midnight picnic...to a...

Some women have better judgment than their husbands. I'm sorry Wrangler, but some men can be positively daft in some areas. Consider a man who wants to invest the entire nest-egg in some scheme. No, women are not as happy because they're not being treated fairly yet. They still do 70% of the...

And your complaint is...........? It's interesting that you said earlier: Yes, she's in control. Big deal, as you say. Well, cooking is part of that skill set. But HEY! If a man doesn't even appreciate that...in PEACE time...why bother doing that at all for someone? Women want to be...

Not ALL women are like that, just like not all men would want to step up during a crisis. Eh. Doubtful. And THEREIN lies the 'rub'! The decisions she makes regarding preparing a nice home FOR YOU are no 'big deal'. Meanwhile, it's a VERY big deal for HER. That shows a lack of gratitude on...

I just had an epiphany with what I bolded. You seem to view your wife's behavior as the behavior of ALL women, just as you hear MY complaints about my late husband...or even SOME men I've known, as if my complaints extend to ALL men. In other words, you're projecting your own experiences...

It worked for US.

So, you're bragging about "cooling" the dinner on Mondays for 13 years? :Laughingoutloud: Yes, I'm just teasing you...trying to bring a little levity to the thread! :Broadly:

Adam and Eve were BOTH guilty. Adam got into trouble with his independence, too. They BOTH could have used their free will to say 'no'. Eve could have said 'no' to the serpent. Adam could have said 'no' to Eve. Eve blamed the serpent for tricking her. But Adam blamed both Eve AND God. They...

Do you actually WANT to pay the bills? If not, then you should TALK to her about it. If you DO want to pay them, then you have nothing to complain about!

Lots of things IN LIFE 'depends'. All or even MOST of life isn't cut-n-dry or black-or-white. I'm not familiar with the whole idea of 'male reproductive rights'.

All has to be put into context, Wrangler.