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The 4th kingdom beast is pagan Rome - the kingdom that was in place when the Messiah arrived. After the cross AND after the 10 horns came out of pagan Rome, the little horn would not arrive for another 400 years. In these two verses, we are told the arrival of a ram with two horns. This ram...

Thanks Trevor. If you do not mind, perhaps we can go through the verses (briefly) in Chapter 8 and determine when we depart in our intepretations. Consequently, here are a few of the beginning verses we can initially discuss: 3Then I lifted my eyes and saw, and there, standing beside the river...

What calls for one to change the unit of measurement that has been given to us? I don’t understand..,

i Thanks. But doesn't this event take place within the discussion of the 4th beast kingdom of pagan Rome? The first three kingdoms are long gone and almost all of remaining chapters concentrate on the 4th kingdom. Yes, there is a "mentioning" of them in passing, but the 4th kingdom is where all...

If anyone is interested, I would respectfully request that we might return to the original topic of the 2300 days prophecy. So, 1) is this time element speaking to the cleansing of the Sanctuary in heaven or on earth? 2) is this event that was fulfilled during the time of AE, Messiah, or in...

Thank you for your response. Yes, they are both seen as coming out of the 4th beast kingdom of pagan Rome. And both will continue until His return. The metal man image of Chapter 2 is given to us to confirm there will only be 4 kingdoms that come out of the sea. All of these prophecies in Daniel...

Very well. How about this.... is it possible the 2300 days is a messianic prophecy that is fulfilled by Jesus during His 3.5 year ministry? Can He be the only one who is able to cleanse the Sanctuary in heaven? Thanks.

Thanks for your thougIhts Scott. I would ask that you might consider an alternative interpretation., but please keep in mind this interpretation does not stand alone. However, this response will most likely give that appearance because, as you know, the Scriptures all speak to one major theme...

okay and thanks for your input. Does anyone else care to weigh in on these two verses and what are the next one of two relevant verses that we should discuss?

Okay, perhaps we might try and attack this topic another way. Instead of providing our individual opinions, which are many, why don't we try and come up with the various attributes, characteristics, and of course the timing that we might find in Daniel 7 and 8 (for now) that specficially are...

You can assume whatever you desire... there is absolutely no unwillingness on my part to discuss and share my interpretations with anyone. It is quite the opposite. If you look at my normal responses, they are sometimes quite lengthy and might just put some off because they maybe interested in a...

Thanks for your response and I don’t believe we will need to continue. Best wishes.

I have requested that you provide your suppot / reasoning for your interpretations regarding the little horn, the 4th kingdom, etc., but you have only given me your opinion that the little horn is AE. So, I believe it might be approrpriate to take these important verses one at a time and ask...

You have again failed to respond to my questions. The only thing you have done is to give your opinion that Daniel 7 and 8 do not speak to the little horn.

OK and thanks.

My mistake! I thought the last response was from Earburner.....

Are you Catholic? Sorry, I would like to hear from your own voice why AE matches up to the many verses In Chapter 7 and 8 that specfically identify only one actor....

That is your respoonse? You have repeatedly insisted the little horn is AE. So I ask you at least a third time to identity how all the verses in Chapters 7 and 8 could possibly point to AE.... i know the little horn is indeed the papacy... which you are agressively rejected... so, please give...

No, you haven't. I asked you to connect the many characteristics, attributes and actions that are provided in Chapters 7 and 8 that specifically speak to the identification, timing and activities he will do against God, His saints, His people, His church, His gospel. There can only be one...