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    Why I believe in the rapture.

    I Believe the Blood of Jesus cleanses us from all sin. But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. (1 John 1:7)
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    No one can know the true grace of God who has not first known the fear of God.

    I am Posting this for @Jared42 regarding the Glory of God, But also for others who will Benefit from reading this. It comes from Tozer's Book, "The Root of The Righteous" The Terror of the Lord Chapter 10 A truth fully taught in the Scriptures and verified in personal experience by countless...
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    The People Who Actually Try To Say They Have "Seen The Glory of God."

    No, I was in a state of brokenness and repentance and prayer.
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    The People Who Actually Try To Say They Have "Seen The Glory of God."

    Yes, in all the examples I gave you in my initial comment here. My Vision of His Glory was similar to Isaiah's when he said: "Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the...
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    The People Who Actually Try To Say They Have "Seen The Glory of God."

    And Most of us do not belong to any of those churches.....
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    The People Who Actually Try To Say They Have "Seen The Glory of God."

    I am using an analogy To illustrate that your point is illogical. You said; "Those two statements are mutually exclusive". I am showing you they are not by giving you a similar illustration of why this is not a logical fallacy. It is you who have a problem with basic English comprehension and...
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    The People Who Actually Try To Say They Have "Seen The Glory of God."

    No they are not mutually exclusive. I can study the universe and Stars and yet not fully comprehend its infinite size and scope. I can look at the biology of Life with science and also see the creation and its incredible complexity and see the hand of God in that creation.
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    The People Who Actually Try To Say They Have "Seen The Glory of God."

    Did Moses witness the glory of God? Did Elijah Witness the Glory of God? Did Ezekiel see the Glory of God in the temple? Did the Apostles see the Glory of God on the mount of transfiguration? The answer is yes. and there are countless others in scripture and even in the church age who have...
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    the great Jewish "distress"

    Hi Randy, I see these prophecies as a dual prophecy. I Think had the Jews received Jesus as their messiah, 70ad might well have been the end of the age, But because of their unbelief and rejection of Jesus, Many of those prophecies were put off or delayed, Yet some did come to fruition in 70ad...
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    I have a question

    Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. (John 8:12) Light is the very essence of the Cosmos, without light there is nothing. God is the light and in him is no darkness. on the first...
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    Tell Us Why There Is Both Historic and Ongoing Disagreement Upon All of Scripture.

    For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. (1 Corinthians 1:18) You Have over and over again maligned people who have responded to your question quite rudely. The answers given here are quite sound from diverse...
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    Psalm 74, A Psalm for the coming tribulations

    I See the Great tribulation as the birthing process, although I agree on the mid trib pre wrath rapture. Read this Post of mine to understand this. The birthing process. | Christian Forums @ Christianity Board
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    Tell Us Why There Is Both Historic and Ongoing Disagreement Upon All of Scripture.

    You attack the church of God, the Body of Christ like the adversary, it is your heart that is revealed. I am a Christian nothing more, nothing less. Without Christ Jesus I am nothing. But this is not about me this is about you, this is your post, Your query that others have answered and you have...
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    Tell Us Why There Is Both Historic and Ongoing Disagreement Upon All of Scripture.

    Why Don't you ask God to reveal His glory to you.... Be careful though, because you will not be able to stand and spout out your vehement blasphemies against Him. If my words convicted you watch the video below.
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    Tell Us Why There Is Both Historic and Ongoing Disagreement Upon All of Scripture.

    Sounds like you have never experienced the presence of God in your life, and have not beheld His glory.... You change when you do. There are two types of learners in this world, those who arrive at truth and those who do not.... fellowship is one of the ways we as humans can arrive at Truth...
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    Psalm 74, A Psalm for the coming tribulations

    When does the wrath of God begin? Answer: @ the seventh trumpet And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and...
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    Tell Us Why There Is Both Historic and Ongoing Disagreement Upon All of Scripture.

    For me Personally, Humility comes when we see and come into the presence of an almighty God who is omniscient. When we focus on this our hardness goes away and we become like a sponge to his teaching, and His Word. Is there a doctrinal unity to be had? I believe there is and comes when we...
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    Tell Us Why There Is Both Historic and Ongoing Disagreement Upon All of Scripture.

    No, I identified the problem... the pride of man. The scripture is there as a guide to how Unity of the Spirit works. Unity comes with Spiritual maturity, part of that maturity is being man enough to listen to others and hear their views and not beat them down because they disagree with you...
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    Tell Us Why There Is Both Historic and Ongoing Disagreement Upon All of Scripture.

    Simple answer: the cause of the Problem is the pride of man. When man comes to the conclusion that they only know in part, then that pride will be discarded and discourse can take place, and the unity of the Spirit achieved. Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the...
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    Psalm 74, A Psalm for the coming tribulations

    Find me the verse that says we will not face tribulation in this world? Notice 1 Thessalonians 5:9 says "God has not appointed us to wrath":)