Search results

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

  1. C

    new version of OSAS?

    In that same article He says: We have been taught that grace means "you can do nothing to be saved." Such thinking has been extended to "you can do nothing to have spiritual growth." So spiritual transformation occurs, according to this thinking, in one of two ways – inspiration or information...
  2. C

    new version of OSAS?

    I like how Willard in an interview states: We are not only saved by grace, we are paralyzed by it. We have lost any coherent view of how spiritual growth occurs. Our churches are dominated by a consumer religion that has nothing to do with spiritual growth. But within those churches, there’s a...
  3. C

    new version of OSAS?

    @Addy Thank for response that was nice. And I am fine with you not arguing or responding. BUT I TOO STRESS THE GOSPEL OF GRACE WHICH IS Jesus. And I come on to respond to any post that I believe other readers are thinking too...So don't get offended if I respond... You too have a blessed day!
  4. C

    new version of OSAS?

    It would not be mind boggling if people trusted Jesus and not the doctrine of osas. IT IS Jesus Christ that is secure. The Gospel Osas preach is Trust something Jesus did to secure heaven when they die. They only see the word "saved" as meaning delivered to have heaven when they die. They do...
  5. C

    new version of OSAS?

    Because what is Finished, we also need to walk in. GAL 5:16 We are reconciled by His death, that we might be saved by His life. [Roman's 5:10] So one must see that God wants to save the Body, Soul, and Spirit. 1 Thes 5;23 On reconciliation [read EPHESIANS 2] and asked what was the unmerited...
  6. C

    new version of OSAS?

    I can't see what the other person is writing...but seen this side and thought I'd add.. Romans 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
  7. C

    new version of OSAS?

    So I said all this to say....their is a Baptism that allows us to be in communion... And I believe it is what I think God did with Abraham... When He told Him to walk before Him Blameless and He would make a Covenant with Him. Therefore my question about does one need to be Justified before...
  8. C

    new version of OSAS?

    So to continue with the answer I found: Galatians 3:2-14 11 Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.” 12 The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, “The person who does these things will live by them.” 13 Christ...
  9. C

    new version of OSAS?

    That passage has always spurred my thoughts... And I have a take on it..... But I guess I should be able to explain first why the Old Covenant could never purify the conscience. Then move here...in 1Peter 3:21 and 1John 1:7 Hebrews 9:14, NIV: "How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who...
  10. C

    new version of OSAS?

    Read 1 Peter 3:21 now, and what do you see?
  11. C

    new version of OSAS?

    But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
  12. C

    new version of OSAS?

    1 John 5:11 And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Where is this life? .. >....>....> IN His Son...
  13. C

    new version of OSAS?

    ... Jesus died an rose It is through His death we are reconciled And continually protected, and delivered as we "live" by His life. To live by His life...is definitely not earning but an honor to serve...For the Joy of the Lord is my strength Thing is Life was Given to us.....When we...
  14. C

    new version of OSAS?

    ...... Orge-wrath>from 3713; properly, desire [as a reaching forth or excitement of the mind] (by analogy)
  15. C

    new version of OSAS?

    Read this passage carefully Rom 5:8-10 [8] but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. [9] Since, therefore, we have now been justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath [of God]. [10] For if while we were enemies we were...
  16. C

    new version of OSAS?

    Then Jesus said to his disciples, "Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me.
  17. C

    new version of OSAS?

    So first we become heirs- for Romans 8:17 states: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
  18. C

    new version of OSAS?

    Let's look at another passage and try not to filter through OSAS.....it's going to be hard but try...... he saved us not by works of righteousness that we have done but on the basis of his mercy, through the washing of the new birth and the renewing of the Holy Spirit, 3:6 whom he poured out on...
  19. C

    new version of OSAS?

    14Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. This is an important passage for those looking in not part of this argument who really are searching for truth. DOES THE PASSAGE HERE SAY : WHO GAVE HIMSELF...
  20. C

    new version of OSAS?

    Titus 2.... 11For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; 13Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God...