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  1. PinSeeker

    The final harvest?

    In... your opinion. Mine is otherwise. In... your opinion. Mine is otherwise... or to clarify, the first resurrection is completed when the millennium is ended; and actually that the millennium comes to a close when the collective first resurrection of all individual members of God's elect is...
  2. PinSeeker

    The final harvest?

    I do believe this, RWB. But... read on... I understand how that could have appeared that way to you, but I don't think what I say above presents any conflict. I don't believe there will be "more time given for saving elect Jews" ~ that doesn't necessarily follow from what I said. But I do...
  3. PinSeeker

    The final harvest?

    Which I have said more than once... So you think; I fully understand. :) So you... and at least some "Amill," because there are variations of amillennialism... think. I agree with you that the just are judged first, as we see in Matthew 25:34-40, and then after the just the unjust, as we see...
  4. PinSeeker

    Why Hitler killed the Jews

    The only issue I would take with that, RDB, is that John, at the outset of Revelation, says that anyone who reads aloud the words of this prophecy and/or hears, and keeps what is written in it will be blessed. So, first: I... kinda think <smile> that God wants to bless us (rather than not, or...
  5. PinSeeker

    The final harvest?

    I'm really not sure what you're taking issue with, here, RWB. I say that if there is any disagreement between us here, it is very, very minor and not worth quibbling over. It seems we agree that all will be done prior to Christ's return and can leave it at that. Grace and peace to you, brother.
  6. PinSeeker

    The final harvest?

    LOL!!! Because there were no I-phones or YouTube, I guess... LOL!!! You're going to believe what you're going to believe, Timtofly. And, you can say the same of me; I'm fine with that. :) It's okay, my friend. Grace and peace to you.
  7. PinSeeker

    The final harvest?

    I appreciate your opinion, EWQ, but I think the very same of you. And there are other irresolvable conflicts that your views presents, concerning which I've been very clear. Disagree (yet again). I understand your thinking, but neither Revelation 20 nor any other passage in scripture even...
  8. PinSeeker

    The final harvest?

    Paul says it very clearly in Romans 11:25-26... "Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. And in this way all Israel will be saved..." Note the...
  9. PinSeeker

    The final harvest?

    Wholeheartedly agreed (as if I ever disagreed with that in principle, because I never did). This much is true... Neither are "mixed," but one (the first, referred to in Revelation 20:4-6, is specific only to God's elect, and corresponds intensely with what Paul says in Ephesians 2 regarding...
  10. PinSeeker

    Why Hitler killed the Jews

    See my post above. That's a good question. Luther certainly did say some awful things near the end of his life. He was a man of God, but also a sinner, which doesn't excuse him, certainly, but accounts for why he said some awful things. And even so, that doesn't somehow negate or tarnish or...
  11. PinSeeker

    Why Hitler killed the Jews

    Yes, sin is a terrible, awful, ugly... terrible thing. As the writer of Ecclesiastes says, there is nothing new under the sun. Regarding Germany, I think they were swayed" for a number of reasons, included among them were that many did not know what was really going on (ignorance, at least...
  12. PinSeeker

    The final harvest?

    Yes, no one disagrees that it "establishes a physical resurrection," but I would submit that what happened here is that some (probably pious Old Testament figures and godly intertestamental Jews) were reimbodied to witness to the new order of things that was now in the process of dawning. This...
  13. PinSeeker

    Why Hitler killed the Jews

    Sure, as is the Bible as a whole. And I would call it at least to a very large extent a willful misunderstanding, which is really a contradiction in terms... it's an exchanging of the truth for a lie, as Paul puts it in Romans 1. We certainly agree regarding dispensationalism. <smile>...
  14. PinSeeker

    Why Hitler killed the Jews

    But we don't know how big that remnant will be... either regarding the number of ethnic Jews or any other ethnicity. All we know is that the total number will be an innumerable multitude (Revelation 7, 14), as the dust of the earth (Genesis 13:16, 28:14), as the grains of sand on the...
  15. PinSeeker

    Why Hitler killed the Jews

    Come on, now. All very true, but God's Israel is made up of a multitude of people from every tongue, tribe, and nation... including many (but not all, certainly) ethnic Jews. And many who are not now Christians will become Christians ~ and thus true Jews included in God's Israel ~ at some...
  16. PinSeeker

    The final harvest?

    LOL!!! Where does Moses live, Timtofly, somewhere in the Middle East, maybe? Papua New Guinea? Somewhere on the west coast in the United States? Christ was not born in need of the first resurrection, as He was (and is God). His physical resurrection, of which he was the firstfruits (1...
  17. PinSeeker

    The final harvest?

    Understood. That's only what you think ~ not to say, EWQ, that what you think is not significant or noteworthy... I'm not saying that... but only what you think it is redefining ~ and I respect that, but it does not. We disagree. As... has been apparent for quite a while now... And neither...
  18. PinSeeker

    The final harvest?

    LOL! That's... okay with me. Disagree. We've been over this many times... we disagree. That's not what I "claimed," Timtofly. There were given authority to judge, which is exactly according to what John writes in Revelation 20:4. Being given authority to judge and actually executing...
  19. PinSeeker

    The final harvest?

    You were quite clear in saying, EWQ ~ and I quote ~ "It is Amill that re-defines what the first resurrection of Rev 20 is," Maybe you didn't mean it that way, but your assertion here clearly implies an intentional act. It would have been much less ambiguous if you had said "mis-defines" or "is...
  20. PinSeeker

    The final harvest?

    "Incorrect. It is exactly as I explained it. It is Amill that re-defines what the first resurrection of Rev 20 is, altering it's meaning." A disingenuous statement/assertion at best... No matter which millennial view one subscribes to (premillennialism, postmillennialism, amillennialism, or...