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You were the one keeping it going... Ah, well, there's yet another thing we disagree on. Wanna argue about that? :) Grace and peace to you.

They do. I am amillennial in my eschatological understanding, and I do accept it. Now, yes, as I have said, some who call themselves amillennial may not accept it, but in that case they are... well, at least not-very-good amillennial believers. :) It is. We disagree. As I have said numerous...

Okay, well, it's also an amillennial understanding. There are some eschatological things that premillennialists get right... :) Not necessarily. That the only way premillennialists think it can go and is thus how premillennialists understand it, yes, but that's incorrect. Right, yes...

The second birth (as I've said numerous times now) results in the resurrection of the spirit within us, the spirit being made alive, brought from death in sin to life in Christ, wherein we no longer live to the world and ourselves but to God, and from that point on we walk in the Spirit. It is...

No, I was just explaining the Revelation 20:1-6 says that the events described therein happen over the course of ~ progressively during ~ the millennium. I didn't add anything to the Word of God. That's a ridiculous accusation and therefore dismissed. Yeah, not what I said. My goodness...

Well no. it just belies your current understanding of things, EWQ, but that's a good thing. :) Sure. I've said this many times. Not necessarily, no. Well if they don't, then that makes them not amillennial... :) Grace and peace to you, EWQ.

Yes. So, in order, the first and the second. :) One! One resurrection! Two! Two resurrection! AHHHHHH...HAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHH...!!! So you think; I understand. :) Actually, I agree with the statement itself, but you mean something different that what you actually say here. By "after...

"Beheaded," Timtofly, in Revelation 20:4, signifies that. So you think; I understand. They were, else they would not have been witnessing (giving testimony) of Jesus and for the Word of God. They were believers, which is an incontrovertible indication of saving faith, which is only possible...

Well no, but I understand that you think that... :) I did. Well, to be more specific, they died, regardless of the reason why they died, and before that had experienced the first ~ the spiritual ~ resurrection... the resurrection of the dead spirit they were born with, as all human beings...

LOL!!!! No... Is this a serious question? Goodness gracious. Wow. Right because your... well, "points" did not... LOL! Yeah, when you point out the absolute absurdity of someone's "points," they usually don't take it so well. :) Grace and peace to you, Timtofly.

Agreed. :) Agreed thus far. Let's examine this "vicariously" thing, Randy. :) I have a son who plays high school football. I cannot play anymore, as I am too old, either for competitive football at any level. Now, I can experience the game vicariously through him, but I am still not...

Okay. :) Yes, I understand. :) Agreed. Our resurrected spirits ~ once dead in sin but now living in Christ ~ remain in un-resurrected bodies. We couldn't have been resurrected physically (bodily) yet, because we haven't yet physically (bodily) died. :) But that will happen eventually...

Yes, really. As Stuart Smalley (Al Franken) said, "Denial is not just a river in Egypt!" :) So, though Noah was a righteous man, blameless in his generation, and walked with God, he was left behind? LOL! Ugh... When as a result of the final Judgment the unbelieving are sent away...

Well, see above what I said to EWQ. The first resurrection is a result of our being born again. We are born again and thus raised from death in sin to life in Christ. We are a new creation; the old has passed away and the new has come (2 Corinthians 5:17). We walk in newness of life (Romans...

We disagree. :) I do agree with you regarding the beheaded already being born again, though. But the resurrection in view in Revelation 20:4-6 is not physical. I think the real issue between us is when we (you and I) see the events described in Revelation 20, specifically Revelation 20:1-6...

To you also, my friend. I'm aware of that. Maybe there's hope for you yet, though... :) Well, I quoted Paul, with the full impact of certain words that he uses in parentheses. Well, we're not there in body, for sure, but spiritually we are. He does say that God "made us alive together with...

Well, you and I have experienced the first resurrection... a spiritual resurrection, not physical, in which, as Paul says, we who were dead in our trespasses/sin were made alive together with Christ and raised up (resurrected) with Him and seated (ruling) with Him in the heavenly places in Him...

I'm interested in why you think this, too, Randy. With all due respect, Randy, the fact that you can't logically prove it ~ using Scripture ~ would (logically, sorry) seem to present some red flags that, hey, maybe this is not right... :) Anyway, again, yes, I'm interested in why you think...

What someone believes about the end times and how it will play out is not salvific. This debate between Christians about what the millennium of Revelation 20 is and the nature of it ~ past, present, or future ~ is not a hill to die on. :) Jesus already did that for us. :) And we all believe...

Well, we don't know exactly what hell looks like, for sure. We just know that unbelievers are sent away, and we are given some mental images that communicate its... undesirableness... Well, RWB, the answer is yes. I mean, surely, it's nothing to be flippant about, but... well, yes. It's...