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  1. Ernest T. Bass

    Salvation Not Possible Without Works

    I just asked a simple question that you do not want to answer. You first say "I have never argued that man is totally depraved" but then you say " I do argue that man can't do good apart from God's influence". This is what I would say is total depravity, man unable to do good on his own. Also...
  2. Ernest T. Bass

    The Doctrine of OSAS

    My point is they can be saved if they would continue in the faith but they will not be saved if they depart from/cast off the faith. Paul, writing tothechurch at Colossae said "In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: If ye...
  3. Ernest T. Bass

    Salvation Not Possible Without Works

    Hi, The NIV mistranslated flesh as sinful nature. Again, from Romans 2 the Gentiles BY NATURE were able to do the things in the law eve though they did not have Moses' law. Obviously thier nature was ont toally depraved for if it were it wouls have been IMPOSSIBLE for them by nature to do the...
  4. Ernest T. Bass

    Marriage equality

    The Christian is "holy and without blame" Eph 1:4, spotless and blameless, 2 Pet 3:14. God does not expect the Christian to be able to be perfectly sinless on his own, so how can the Christain be spotless, blameless and holy? By being "in Christ" where Christ's blood continues to cleanse away...
  5. Ernest T. Bass

    Salvation Not Possible Without Works

    Faith is nothing, it is dead without works. ANd a dead faith cannot do anything, so it is not poassible one is first saved by a dead faith THEN do works. The Jews were trying to keep God's law perfectly thereby meriting salvation. AN interesting passage on this I have been looking at recently...
  6. Ernest T. Bass

    The Doctrine of OSAS

    It is YOU, not the contexts, that say they never would have been saved anyway. And it is obvious to see why you have that need to add that idea to the context. 1 Tim 4:1 "....some will fall away from the faith..." Logically they must be in the faith in order to fall away from the faith. So...
  7. Ernest T. Bass

    Salvation Not Possible Without Works

    You posted " What I'd like to ask you, Williemac and Justaname, is this: Do you believe that one must believe, repent, confess and be baptized? Here's the thing.... I do!" And you are defeating your own argument. And yes they are all works, some thing done for they certainly are not "sitting...
  8. Ernest T. Bass

    Salvation Not Possible Without Works

    Love is associated with obedient works/keeping commandments: Jn 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments." Jn 14:21 "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to...
  9. Ernest T. Bass

    Marriage equality

    1 Jn 3:8,9 "He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he...
  10. Ernest T. Bass

    The Doctrine of OSAS

    It was claimed Rom 10:11 "proves" eternal security but upon examiniation it does not for no verse teaches this man-made doctrine. Yet you post (my emp) " By faith, we receive the new birth. By faith we receive the indwelling presence of God in the Holy Spirit. These do not just go away. We do...
  11. Ernest T. Bass

    The Doctrine of OSAS

    People choose to have faith by choice and can choose to turn from faith by choice, 1 Tim 4:1; 1 Tim 5:12; 1 Tim 6:10; Heb 3:12
  12. Ernest T. Bass

    Marriage equality

    I still do not see how one can have homosexual tendencies yet be a saved believer in Christ. Whether he/she acts on those tendencies or not, homosexuality is still wrong. In their belief, even if they are celibate, they think nothing would be wrong with homosexuality when in reality it is a...
  13. Ernest T. Bass

    Marriage equality

    Homosexuals that believe can be saved when Christ returns?
  14. Ernest T. Bass

    The Doctrine of OSAS

    The verb 'believes' is present tense, a tense proponents of eternal security 'tend to ignore' or dismiss oftentimes. With the present tense Rom 10:11 can be translated "Whoever continues on believing shall not be ashamed". So believing cannot be done just once or sporadically but must be an...
  15. Ernest T. Bass

    Salvation Not Possible Without Works

    Nowhere did Paul ever divorce faith from NT obedience, see Rom 6. When Paul speaks of faith apart from works as in Rom 4:4,5, the works under consideration are works of merit the "worker" in v4 does not an obedient faith as Abraham. An obedient, working faith saves, works of merit do not. In...
  16. Ernest T. Bass

    Salvation Not Possible Without Works

    Belief, Jn 8:24 Repetnace, Lk 13:3,5 confession, Matt 10:32,33 baptism, Mk 16;16 At this point one becomes a Christian, Upon becoming a Christian one must: do good works/keep Christ's works living faithful unto death, Eph 2:10, Rev 2:10 Rev 2:26 Repentance is required and repentance is a...
  17. Ernest T. Bass

    Salvation Not Possible Without Works

    The bible ties faith and works so closely together that faith is a work. Lev 17:11 says the life of the flesh is in the blood. likewise the life of faith is in the works. Remove the blood kill the flesh; remove the works kill the faith. So salvation is not possible without works, the work of...
  18. Ernest T. Bass

    Salvation Not Possible Without Works

    A Christian cannot be void of good works towards his brethren and still be saved.
  19. Ernest T. Bass

    Salvation Not Possible Without Works

    Matt 25 is clear cut in that a Christian cannot do good works for His brethren and be saved. Jesus in the context says what a Christian does (or does not do) to the brethren is the same as doing (or not doing) for Him. And the context gives the eternal consequences for doing and not doing good...
  20. Ernest T. Bass

    Salvation Not Possible Without Works

    You do understand works are involved but "grace alone" is not how people are saved. Titus says God's grace hath appeared to all men, therefore if grace alone saves then all men would be saved. Yet all men will not be saved for Gods grace is CONDITIONAL upon man's obedience Heb 5:9>>> Eph 2:8...