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Is this about a literal battle on a city God loves or is the city God loves the church which is surrounded by the world because the world has declared war on it? The church is the bride of Christ the new Jerusalem.

Satan is a spiritual being whos binding is spiritual not physical. Thinking that satan who is a spiritual being requires literal chains and a sealed pit to restrain him makes no sense. Jesus reigns because He is God not because satan is bound this would give satan way too much credit. Do you...

This is a classic case of premils not understanding the amil view of what the binding of satan is. How can premils discuss when they don't understand what the amil view is?

Your mixing up great tribulations as there are many (on the world, on Israel ) but only one "The great tribulation" mentioned in Revelation 7:14 which is world wide and on the church. What made the great tribulation of Israel in 70AD the worst that ever will be isn't just about carnage its...

Its just saying that there hasn't been a tribulation like that since the beginning of the world. There are many great tribulations but only one "The great tribulation" which is on the church world wide. It started on the day Stephen was killed and is still happing today Revelation 7:9-14 The...

It doesn't say that it was on the world its a great tribulation which was the tribulation of the siege on Jerusalem. In all 1.2 million perished and only 97000 survived. If it went on longer all would of perrished.

Because the context was the destruction of Jerusalem

The time cut short was the siege on Jerusalem, if it wasn’t cut short all of Jerusalem would of perished

Thats not what I am saying i'm saying that satan is bound spiritually by deceiving people by the power of the gospel. He can't deceive those who choose to receive the message of the gospel

Because most people think thats what revelation 20 says

It only says that he is bound by deceiving the nations thus the gospel reveals Jesus to all nations. Satan is bound by deceiving the nations since the day of Pentecost Who was in Jerusalem on the day of Pentecost? Acts 2:5 5 Now there were staying in Jerusalem God-fearing Jews from every...

I don’t think so either but it definitely doesn’t always mean Israel but at times it did because it was the world that they knew. Just like the times Paul used the term whole world or other times it just meant the known world.

What I was meaning is that the verse below used Israel as the whole world so the bible gives it permission to in other verses as well John 12:19 So the Pharisees said to one another, “See, this is getting us nowhere. Look how the whole world has gone after him!”

Yes he was Roman. The gospels use the term the whole word to mean Israel so it is biblical language

It’s not a matter of if they will buy can they.

If you check history or even historians like Josephus or Taticus you will see what happened in that time.

Check and compare these verses

It’s just easier to see side by side I’m away so I can’t send mine

look up a chart comparing the two Matthew 24 and revelation 6

Yes but I believe that the 6 seals are the same time as the events in the Olivit discourse they are they read the same and I believe they happened in the time leading up to 70AD the destruction of Jerusalem.