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It seems like you are guessing that you are right based on what you are posting. PS: - I edited my post above to give a basis for my understanding.

But I am not guessing at all. Exodus 20:4-6 gives us a valid clue as to when God will begin gathering Israel to Himself in our near future. Probably around 20 years from now. But that is based on my understanding of the scriptures and how long an age/generation is. There are enough hooks in...

My Dreams has started many threads stating that he is feeling unwell and is disturbed. I just wonder why he feels the need to do this. As this thread is found in the prayer forum, passing comments on the prayer request, even at the prompting of the Holy Spirit, is often discouraged and...

Perhaps it is time to close any more discussion on the thread's topic. It is too divisive for a Christian forum.

I am glad that you are not discouraged. However, may I humbly suggest that you dig a little deeper into the Source language texts to come to a better contextual understanding of what you read in the scriptures.

You can believe what you want to believe, but i will hold to my understanding.

You can believe what you want but I am happy with my understanding as it fits all of the pieces together in the right order.

Barney, your statement only shows that even great people like John Wesley (1703-1791) can get it wrong just as easily as the article that I was referring too has as well. That is not true as far as I am concerned. There are many on this forum, who do not identify as SDA whose rhetoric is just...

We still disagree on this conclusion. When the time of the Gentiles is over in around 20 years time, as Paul states in Romans 11:25b-26, "all of Israel will be saved." The end of the time of the gentiles will occur when all the kings of the earth assemble at Armageddon and they are judged for...

My previous answer is still correct.

Well, in our case in the other half of the hemisphere, down under, the tide is slowly turning, and the weather pattern is changing slowly such that the temperatures at night are now starting to dip below 20 °C, (68 °F) and we are able to get some relief from the persistent heat. The weather map...

We agree on this point. We disagree on this point. AS Paul stated in Romans 11:25b-26, that after the fullness in time of the Gentiles is completed, that all of Israel will be saved because God will once more gather Israel to Himself where they are living scattered throughout all of the earth...

All that I can say to your rhetoric is WOW, as it does not agree with the scriptures.

Douggg, sadly you have missed the point of Daniel 2:34-35. The Kingdom of God is a "religious" entity and not a "power" entity which the five segments of the Statue prophecy in Daniel 2 are. The stone that comes down out of heaven, untouched by human hands is the foundation for our religious...

Because in the OT mountains represent religions. Take for example Daniel 2:34-35: - 34 You watched while a stone was cut out without hands, which struck the image on its feet of iron and clay and broke them in pieces. 35 Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver, and the gold were...

Where is your proof? The seven horns represent seven mountains which represent seven religions under the influence of the seven kings who each have a crown that has been given to them to represent the authority that they will be allowed to exercise. This time period will not be for a long...

The next generation is still around 20 years into our future before it will start and then it will last for 1,000 years and a little while or as Daniel tells us for a season and a time. (Dan 7:12b.)

And what is your relationship with Rella? I get confused because you both sound like you intimately know each other's likes.

This is SDA rhetoric doctrine and does not agree with the scriptures as given but is the understanding of mere men.

Hobie, you did not actually read what I had posted and went off on your tangent to show your denominationally biased understanding. This is the portion of the Daniel 9 chapter on which I was commenting. Daniel 9:24a: - 24 "Seventy weeks are determined For your people and for your holy city, To...