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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    Imaginary future kingdom?... 6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.... Did...
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    Then please interpret Ezekiel 45, LINE BY LINE, so I can know exactly what it is trying to tell me spiritually. Preterists take a step waaay back and say it is saying such and such in a nutshell. They are baffled if they try to interpret it line by line, proving they are frauds.
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    There is 2 positions only. Pick one. The sacrifices take away sins or the sacrifices are a memorial to God. There is no other answer to the purposes of sacrifices. Question: did Abel's sacrifice remind God of the lamb slain from the foundation of the world per grace or did they take away his...
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    Did Psalm 22 already happen in God's eyes or did God "prophecy" this intricate detail? Was Jesus quoting Psalm 22 while on the cross or was Psalm 22 quoting Jesus?
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    Correct, Hebrews 8 is about the new covenant to future ISRAEL/JUDAH, not you or I. Hebrews 10:15-17 is our pre-inclusion. that is all we get until the return of Christ. And all this time you thought God abandoned His covenant to the fathers concerning their descendants to posess the land and...
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    Who is the prince in Ezeliel 45 and 46???
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    Exekiel 37 to the end of the book has not happened yet. This equates to future.... 21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land: 22...
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    The scripture needs to be dug deeper? Unhappy with it's first glance? Need mass commentary to soothe your presuppositions? It must mean something else? That describes preterists to the t.
  9. Truther

    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    Okay, all the detail of Ezekiel 45-46 was fake. Now, who was the fake prince it speaks of?
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    You mean this... 34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more...
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    You think the epistles were for "certain" or "special" saints, and not all of them. You have no business reading or applying them because they are not directed to you(per preterist ideology).
  12. Truther

    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    You showed me that every Jew was saved in Israel and Judah and they ceased to witness "know the Lord" to each other in Acts 2? All Preterists teach that or just you?
  13. Truther

    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    Right, Paul wrote the book to the mixed crowd of saints, so was the book of Hebrews written to all the saints. It just so happened that the gentiles had to get caught up regarding OT stuff.
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    Exactly when in history was Ezekiel 45-46 fulfilled? Who was the prince?
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    Did God witness this or not?.... Psalm 22 My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? 2 O my God, I cry in the day time, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent. 3 But thou art holy, O thou that...
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    No, Heb 8 is quoting Jer 31 as a future prophecy of national Israel and Hebrews 10:15-17 is speaking to the audience of the book, inclusion into the specific, small part. Anyone that teaches the entire promise of Jer 31/Heb 8 is for the church in some weird spiritual way is a replacement...
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    The Devil's Ministers

    Jesus prayed to people? Nuts!