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To all: I have already demonstrated in this thread a long list of different verses proving that a believer can fall away from salvation. I even demonstrated also this with the Parable of the Prodigal Son, as well (Along with James 5:19-20). But if that's not enough, here is another list...

No. Technically, the Law of Moses as a whole is no more (as a whole or package deal). We look to Jesus and not Moses. You don't know all of what I believe the Laws of Christ are. There are actually 440 commands approximately in the New Testament. Believers must the Sanctification Process by...

I am quoting Scripture, and you are just relaying your own thoughts here. Explain the Scriptures I put forth to you. If not, this only makes your belief look bankrupt.

Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 3:24, Romans 4:5-6 are all dealing with our Initial Salvation by God's grace. Being Initially Saved by God's grace is a process of salvation without works. It's received like a gift (Ephesians 2:8). Gifts are received one time. This would be in our Initial Salvation...

The letter that kills is the Torah and not the commands that come from Jesus and His followers. The followers of Jesus would not write down any letter that kills from Jesus and or by their own writings if such were the case. Paul said if any man does not agree with the words of Jesus Christ...

One Christian guy admitted with me at my old work place that he could mow down a crowd of people with a sub machine gun and he would be saved by a belief alone in Jesus as his Savior (as he did so). I have heard similar things by other Christians online. In fact, there is one church called...

Actually, that’s not true. I have been at these kinds of discussion for 11 years approximately and I listen carefully to what many people say in the Perpetual Belief Alone Salvationism camp. I have talked with people in person and online. I have done extensive research into their stated...

Yes, God gives a new heart with new desires, and God does empower us. No doubt about it. But that does not mean we cannot fall. Fall Away List of Verses: If we are never in jeopardy when we sin, then the Bible would not teach that we can fall away from the faith; But it does teach that we...

Yes, it does because it shows that there is a change of the Law (Hebrews 7:12). I make this point even further in my previous post involving the motivation behind WHY Paul spoke negatively of the Law or works (When he used those words generically). Paul never spoke against the Laws of Christ...

You fail to understand the underlying motivation of why Paul was speaking negatively of the Law and works in many of his letters when he spoke of these things. Paul was fighting against a heresy of which I call: "Circumcision Salvationism" (Which is Law Alone Salvationism without God's...

@Daydreamer Jesus was making changes to the Law (even before the New Covenant went officially into effect with His death). For Jesus was primarily teaching New Covenant teachings and not Old Covenant teachings during His earthly ministry. How so? Jesus clearly was making changes to the Law...

Just as Moses was God’s mediator to God’s people… Jesus (Who is second person of the Godhead or Trinity) was God the Father’s mediator to God’s people. So Moses gave teachings for God’s people (from God the Father). And Jesus gave teachings for God’s people (from God the Father). Hebrews...

Peter says this about Paul's writings, "As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction." (2 Peter 3:16). In Romans...

Thank you for your patience on my reply back. I will answer your question here in just a moment. I first wanted to say… The first shall be last and the last shall be first (Matthew 20:16). The order of the Bodily Resurrections: Those who are Raptured (or Caught Up) either before the...

Many believers today misinterpret 2 Corinthians 3:3, and 2 Corinthians 3:6. 1 Corinthians 3:6 says, “Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.” (2 Corinthians 3:6). Now, this verse is...

Well, the problem goes beyond OSAS actually. OSAS is a problem because it justifies sin under God's grace (Although some try to deny this). There are those who deny OSAS, and yet they also believe you can sin and still be saved. These are called Free Will Baptists. They believe the only way you...

This sounds like you have chosen to believe in fiction over what the Bible says on the blood in regards to salvation. In other words, do you just ignore 1 John 1:7? Do you seek to change it because you don't like what it says?

It's not I that teaches this, but the Bible itself. Demonstration: In Luke 15, we learn in the parable of the prodigal son that when the prodigal son came home and sought forgiveness with his father from living it up with prostitutes, his father said he was “dead” and he is “alive AGAIN.”...

Also, it needs to be worth noting that Romans 7:14-24 is Paul speaking from his past experience of when he was a Pharisee while he was under the 613 Laws of Moses. So when we read the word “flesh” in Romans 8, this is in reference to not only justifying sin, but it would be in reference to...

@BARNEY BRIGHT I am not interested in your denial of how God reveals Himself in Scripture; And therefore, I am not interested in derailing my own thread and or having this debate with you endlessly. I am confident in what I believe the Scriptures say on that matter. But again, that is not...