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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    I am a premillenial pre-wrather in my eschatology, I Understand some of the partial preterist arguments against the millennialists as my Mother was a sort of partial preterist in her eschatology, But I do not agree with it. It is my belief that the millennium is there for the purpose of...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    I Am not a prophet. Never have I claimed to be. Any of us who are walking in the Spirit can receive the word of Prophecy, But this does not make us a prophet. A step below a prophet is a watchmen or a seer, That is what I am. Like Balaam's Donkey. A watchmen is not always right, but they warn of...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. (Galatians 5:25) To Encourage brethren who are living in the Spirit to walk in the Spirit is not self affirming, In Fact it is based on the principal of edification of the Body. To Live in the Spirit is one thing, to walk is to be active...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    Have you ever been in a position where you knew doing one thing was the right thing to do, but for whatever reason you froze and could not do this? I will give some examples: You are hanging out with your friends and they start to bully someone who is weaker than you all, and instead of standing...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    Very good question, and I would have to pray and study more to give a "solid" answer. Here are a couple of points that may help you from where I am at with my study of Revelation.... Of the two women, there is a judgment, (Rapture, wheat and tares etc.) after the time in the wilderness, Of...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    Though I agree in large parts with what you say, let me use an analogy to explain the difference. If I gave you a complete vehicle in Box, all the parts are there, and it is a complete vehicle, you would still have to assemble the vehicle according to the blueprint you have been given. Now you...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; ????? This is where we disagree. Going back to our previous discussions you say we are complete in Him, But there is more to becoming Christlike than even you see. This is the fulness of...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    It is the church, and we who are the firstfruits and by extension all of creation. For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    Here is a post I wrote on this on another forum. Just so that you can see exactly what I am saying here: I am starting this post to gather my thoughts together on, seeing as the other one is gone off on a tangent. And I wanted to Gather together what I have in one cohesive Post. The Following...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    Example of this would be Micah 5. In The course of one paragraph we go from the messiah being born in Bethlehem and suffering to him ruling with and rising up against the Assyrian, to the battle of Armageddon. The only indication of time between these events is verse 3 which is foretelling the...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    It is another problem altogether to deny commonality. There are multiple prophecies in the OT that discuss the first advent and messiah coming as a suffering servant, and Multiple ones discussing the second advent and Messiah coming as King and To Bring Justice. But the smartest of Jewish...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    Here is a simple timeline of how I view things. tribulation=birthpangs the first five seals which are increasing in severity and will continue to in the coming years. Pandemics, hyperinflation, the collapsing fiat currency will likely all play a role in the coming years, This is the church age...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    The way I see Revelation is seven visions, so yes the seals are sequential with one another, but the trumpets are another vision which jumps back, which is why I can put the fourth trumpet as a precursor event to the sixth seal. So For example, in the past few years there have been large coronal...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    I am making a point. Linear thinking is juvenile, There is a reason why Revelation has been hard to unlock because the rational mind is linear as opposed to multidimensional. I even asked the reader not to be offended by this comment for i knew it would draw ire, but it was not even addressed to...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. (Revelation 22:10) Just because John did not write what the seven thunders said, does not mean they are not contained in the book of Revelation.... in fact this is the key that unlocks the book...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    I See it as an unwinding process, first a 1/3rd at the fourth trumpet, then darkened and then lights out in a short period of time, the darkness before the dawn so to speak, it is all the same event after the great tribulation described in multiple passages all leading to the seven thunders...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    Please do not take offence at what I say here, I am making a point. This is the sort of linear thinking that leads to the novice understanding of Revelation and is what false teachers and Nicolaitans feed off of. It is shallow and juvenile, and shows an inability to grasp this book in all its...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    None of those passages say "week of the seventh trumpet" Nor do they imply that this is how long it sounds. Revelation 10:7 just points to the day it will sound not saying how long the blast will last. Now of course Joshua marched around Jericho for seven days, But even then the Seventh trumpet...
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    No Pre-Trib Rapture, The Church Will Be Present On Earth To See The Tribulation And Second Coming

    I Have not given much thought to the everlasting Gospel, I know it is preached by the first angel in Revelation 14, and suspect it is the Gospel we will preach as a "royal priesthood" in the millennial Kingdom. I Also Know he is preparing many of us for these roles, both as end time ministers...