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LOL!!!!! LOL!!!! Oh, my. Grace and peace to you, Marks.

The Gentiles are grafted in, Marks. And the unbelieving Jews who come to believe will be regrafted in. That's... exactly what we're trying to get you to do... :) Well, Paul, in Romans 9:6, does say, "not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel..." Hard to argue with that, but do...

LOL! Is this what you understand me to be saying, Marks? Really? Goodness gracious. No... Nope. If you're stuck in ethnicities, which you seem to be, then you have to use them all and say there are a multitude of groups of people whom God chose. :) But that's kinda silly. God has one...

Of what you say? No... :) Ah, no, the Noah's ark, Rebuilder, is a type/shadow of Christ. Yes, the Old Testament is filled with types and shadows of Christ, and sometimes these types/shadows are inanimate objects (the ark, the rock Moses struck with his staff, the bronze serpent in the...

Exactly. Well, the ones who are alive today. But there are many saints (believers) who "have gone before," in the words of that great hymn, For All the Saints." Believers who were of God's Israel even long before Jesus was born 2000-plus years ago. I think you agree, but this is what it...

Neither Covenantee nor I disagree with what you say, here, Marks. The problem is your understanding ~ or misunderstanding ~ regarding who the children of Jacob are... who are included as children of Jacob. Yet again, in the words of the author of Hebrews, "Long ago, at many times and in many...

No... but it is what it is. The bible has several different genres within it, and apocalyptic literature is one of them. As opposed to history, poetry, and wisdom literature, which we see in various places in Scripture also. It is what it is, and reading it as a Dick and Jane first grade...

Wholeheartedly agreed. But, Marks, ultimately, His promises are not nearly so small as many understand them and/or make them out to be. Not all of them, no. :) That's just it. "Simple." That's really at least kind of the problem. Grace and peace to you.

LOL! I'm not even sure what this means, but okay. Well, I'm not included in either grouping, here, Marks. And your second group is just a false characterization, really. And I'm asserting that both are one and the same. To not get that, to believe otherwise, is to be in error. Again, "Long...

Well, we'll see... :) Not really, no. :) LOL! Well of course! Goodness gracious. Do you think you're answering my question, Marks? Or are you avoiding it? I agree with what you say here, but wouldn't anybody? Nope. That is, though, the way it often gets characterized...

With all due respect, Marks, this is a non-answer. You still have not answered my question. Grace and peace to you.

You didn't answer my question... Yes, he's speaking to His Israel, His chosen nation, but, again, who is Israel? Maybe you're answering in some really roundabout way... :) You might notice the passage from Hebrews 1 that I have quoted in my signature below... :) Grace and peace to you.

I would strongly disagree. As I said above... well, I'll just quote Paul in 2 Corinthians 1:20 ~ "For all the promises of God find their Yes in (Christ Jesus). That is why it is through Him that we utter our Amen to God for his glory." Regarding Hebrews 10, that God "negated" the method of...

How would you answer that question, Covenantee? Grace and peace to you.

Who is Isreal, in your opinion, Marks? Nobody here (I hope) advocates God having "abrogated" or changed His promises or to whom they are made, and (again, I hope) everyone here would fully acknowledge that all God's promises have their 'yes' and 'amen' in Christ Jesus. So, again ~ this seems...

Absolutely true. Hmmm... God's Israel was never physical... unless we want to say that His Israel is made up of, well, physical people (as if there is or are any other kind/quality of people...). God's Israel was never a parcel of land, large or small. There was a land given to Israel ~ the...

So many folks, even well-meaning Christians, don't see the concepts of lesser and greater, and the lesser foreshadowing the greater, in Scripture. It is so integral to so many things, and One in particular ~ see Hebrews 1:1-4... my signature below... ~ that, it would seem just impossible to...

Well, I think calling the "isms" of men is really at least a bit misleading. Not that anyone is trying to be misleading, but it's just a way of classifying human understandings of things. As for dispensationalism ~ and let's just call it dispensational theology ~ the... well, on the other...

Well, to be fair, none of us knows who all is included in God's Nation, Israel. :) What I think you to be saying (to Marks and others) is that God's Israel is a people, not a physical country, or nation, not a place on the map. And if so, I wholeheartedly agree. Certainly we can read many...

Just a couple of things and... it is enough. Wow. Revelation is not a documentary. :) And, related, I guess, Revelation, while certainly relating to a large degree, history, is apocalyptic literature, not a history textbook, and should be read according to the former rather than the latter...