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So you believe obedience in repenting and being baptized comes BEFORE salvation, so faith only cannot save. Yet you say "Though I will not (dare not) make the claim that one who has truly believed and been pierced to the heart, but not had any opportunity to be baptized due to death or other...

Yes, they could have unity in the faith, not unity in their own personal faiths. So the oneness or unity of the faith refers to the one, complete unified body of truth of the NT when it was completely revealed. Those gifts Christ gave to men therefore would last TILL there was a oneness...

Then maybe I am misunderstanding what you are posting. Is a person saved by belief only or is a person saved by a obedient, working belief? -------------------------------- 1 Jn 5:13 is a good verse. He did not say "to you who believe only" but said 'to you who believe" with beiieving...

For the Christian to be saved he must overcome and keep (obey) Christ's works and be faithful unto death, Rev 2:10,26. Those that fail to overcome and become unfaithful can in no way be saved.

My point is that belief/faith is doing something, belief/faith is a work. Therefore since belief/faith comes BEFORE savlation, then works must come BEFORE salvation Likewise repentance is a work, it is something that must be done BEFORE one can be saved, Lk 13:3,5 Acts 2:38 Confession is...

In Eph 1:4 the us refers to a group, Cristians not certain individuals. God forkenw this group Christians would be chosen "in Christ", God foreknew this group would be holy and without blame and God foreknew this group would be called sons of God. I read nothing whatsoever in Eph 1:4,5 where...

To clarify what you are saying, you are saying a man is first saved by faith only (faith void of obedient works) then after saved by faith only (no works) he then obeys (does works)?

I disagree, it is necessary to commit sin to be a sinner, 1 Jn 3:4 Just as it is necessary to do righteousness to be righteous, 1 Jn 3:7. Rom 9:11, before anyone is born they have done no good or evil, so before one is born he is neither a sinner or righteous, he is in an innocent, neutral...

What I was talking about rectifying was you said "I do not believe we are justified by anything we do.." yet faith/belief is something we do that justifies. You do say "we are to obey the Gospel" and "We are to obey the Son" and obeying is something man must do. So would you say man's work in...

Col 2:11-14 Christ took all the OT out of the way making in inactive and ineffective. Fornication is wrong for Christ's NT condemns it, Rom 1:29 1 Cor 5:1 1 Cor 6:18 1 Cor 7:2 and many other verses including Gal 5:19-21 where Paul says fornicators will not inherit the kingdom of heaven...

Hi. To start with, in 1 Cor 9:1 Paul does call those Corinthian Christians his "work"..."Am I not an apostle? am I not free? have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? are not ye my work in the Lord?" In the context of 1 Cor 3 Paul is making a metaphorical comparison between building a building...

There is nothing in Eph 1:4,5 about individuals being foreknown. What is in Eph 1:4,5 are foreknown traits those being in Christ, holy and without blame and sons of God. So what God foreknew was a group that would be called "Christian" and God foreknew this group would be in Christ, be holy...

You have not demonstrated Paul was talking about people's personal faith. When Paul preached the faith was he preaching the various faiths of individuals? No. He was preaching the ONE faith as taught in the NT, Eph 4:5 says "ONE faith". The NT teaches ONE FAITH not a multitude of faithS and...

"The faith" is a common phrase found in the bible talking about the faith of the NT, that ONE faith, Eph 4:5. Paul said unity of THE faith and NOT unity of your various personal faiths. Again, Paul went about preaching THE FAITH and NOT preaching people's various faiths. Jude said to contend...

Before the world began, God predetermined that the group Christians would be His elect, but God never predetermined what individuals would or would not be in this group. When a person chooses to obey the gospel of Christ, he then is added to this predetermined group thereby becoming part of the...

I used those two verses to demonstrate one can believe/have faith yet quit believing/cast off their faith. 1 Tim 5:12 "Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith" It is possible one can cast off faith. Heb 3:12 "Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil...

The bible explains miraculous signs were for a certain time and purpose and that time and purpose has long passed. Not only does the bible say they have ceased there is no physical, objective proof they still exist today. With 24 hour news services, the internet, cell phones that take videos...

Rom 7:8,9 "... For without the law sin was dead. For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died." God's law defines what sin is so without law there would be no sin, it's dead. Yet Paul said he was once alive WITHOUT THE LAW, meaning there was a...

Unity of the faith of Eph 4 has nothing to do with people's personal beliefs. "THE FAITH" is a reference to the NT system of faith as taught from Matthew to Revelation. Gal 1:23 Paul preached THE FAITH, that is, Paul preach that NT system of faith. Paul did NOT preach A faith but preached THE...

Mk 16:20 "And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen." There is no tongue speaking today. The unintelligible utterances as done by some today is NOT miraculous nor is it as the known eartly tongues as spoken...