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Okay and thanks. Who are the five kingdoms? I can only identify 4, and the 4th will continue until the end of time. Who or what is the clay component? God gave Daniel all of these symbols- they can not be taken as face value - there is no consensus on the identity of the kingdoms, the kings...

Well, I certainly agree with you that the little horn is the papacy! Did the little horn and the 10 horns come out of the 4th kingdom of pagan Rome? Are the 10 horns the same as the 10 toes?

Okay, Daniel gave us the interpretation, but what does it mean?

Marty, two questions - how could the Jews fulfill those things mentioned in 9:24? Only God has those powers. Secondly, what do you mean in your last comment - How could all the prophecy be fulfilled if the 70th week (not the 69th week) was the week the Messiah would arrive to begin His ministry?

Got it, and thanks for your response... I think I understand much more of your interpretation on the 70 weeks - the why that I was not finding... Okay, you are indeed correct, your interpretation is quite a bit different than the 2 or 3 interpretations that most folks have come to accept. But...

Marty, you are going to have to forgive me... I am still not sure I understand your point of view so I will try and ask a question to help me go down this path slowly... Are you saying the 6 elements in 9:24 are things that the Jews must fulfill or complete, and, they are not the God given...

Jesus was indeed speaking of Himself in Matthew and Mark when He referred to the AOD standing in the holy place … or standing where He should not ought be… mentioned in Daniel… The “Abomination” is Jesus when He took on the sin of the world. When He did this, He was an “unclean,” and an unclean...

If a man dies today without Christ, he will physically be dead, and spiritually dead- already, but not yet. If a man dies today in Christ, he will physically be dead, but spiritually alive, already but not yet. God has already given us the opportunity to have our sins, transgressions and our...

Marty, gotta agree here. Daniel is about the Messiah, not a recounting of some characters in our history books.

I have no idea what you are trying to say.... If you want to discuss your interpretations that would be fine...

Thanks again for your response. First, I think it is safe to say that both of us are following Scripture - we have access to the exact same verses but we are interpreting them differently... and that is no problem because this is what we are trying to do - understand each other's reasoning or...

Thank you and I agree, but I am attempting to understand how you arrived at your timeline- the starting point for the beginning of the prophecy. That is why I provided you with the list of events that supported my interpretation on when it began in 457 BC. As I mentioned, there are at least 3...

Thank you… and yes I read that in your earlier post. But rather than the two of us simply sharing our very different interpretations, I suggested we might go far back to the beginning of things… the beginning of the 4th Great Jubilee when all of this began (imo). That is why I provided the...

You have obviously read my recent response in # 332-333 above. I believe they were quite detailed for this forum… so, I am looking forward to learning your thoughts.

Well, thank you for your thoughts but we are going to have to agree to disagree. The law was certainly not done away with… our sin nature was not done away with, but the animal sacrifices and offerings were done away with as a result of the perfect sacrifice of the Messiah. The “daily” is now...

I believe this is a good time to suspend any further discussion or responses between us. Best wishes.

Thank you for your comments! I do agree with your approach... but I have found the devil does lie in the details. Would you mind telling me your interpretation of verses 2:34 and 2:35? After this, the next difficult verses are 2:41-43.

PART 2 (DUE TO LENGTH LIMITATIONS WITHIN THIS FORUM). f) Verse 26 and 27 are both "destructive" verses and reveal the events AFTER the cross - after everything was restored from the Babylonian destruction. 1) Verse 9:26 a-b, tells us the Messiah will be "cut off" or crucified AFTER 62 weeks...

PART 1 (DUE TO LENGTH LIMITATIONS WITHIN THIS FORUM). Well, there are an awlful lot of interpretations out there on these four verses (9:24-27). And that should be expected since, they, along with many other verses in Daniel are quite cryptic and difficult to unpack. So, here is my thoughts on...

Marty, thanks for your interpretation. I have not read anyone's interpretation where the 70 weeks of years prophecy began with Cyrus. It is obvious you put some thought and effort into this..... Now, I think it is safe to say that MOST people will respond to you with some level of incredulity...