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  1. Truther

    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    Did you know the 1st century memorial feast was not vegan, not by the Jews or the Christians?
  2. Truther

    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    No, the Law began in the Garden of Eden and was completed in Mal. Jesus called Psalms "your Law" and Paul called the prophets "the Law". Some goofy theologian thinks it is only 5 books.
  3. Truther

    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. 25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in...
  4. Truther

    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    Why do you folks teach tithes from the Law if it is not a "moral Law"?
  5. Truther

    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    Who is the person that divided the OT Law into 3 parts and deleted 2 of them?
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    The new covenant. The sacrifices are only, and have always been a billboard to mankind depicting the lamb slain before the foundation of the world. They are reinstituted as a memorial.
  7. Truther

    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    Is the Law eternally gone?... Rom 7 2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.... 1 Cor 7 39 The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband...
  8. Truther

    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    Is the Law(old covenant) eternally gone?... 8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; 9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and...
  9. Truther

    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    You post starts wrong saying the Law is ended. That contradicts the entire NT. Why move on? You foundational statement is wrong. Fix it and the rest can be addressed..... There were natural general promises made by God to Abraham's natural progeny under the old covenant. This covenant is...
  10. Truther

    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    Did God make a covenant with you specifically or only Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? You are a gentile, correct? You believe in the God of Abraham so you are included in God's promise to Abraham, correct? So, you are stuck in a partial, dark glass covenant that has not yet been fulfilled. This...
  11. Truther

    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    The OT Law is only removed FOR THE BELIEVER. The sinner is still judged by it. Not a word of it will be stricken down until the end of the world. As long as there is a thing called sin, the Law is in effect for it. As a matter of fact, this is whom the Law is made for today... 8 But we...
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    ...they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved... Can you read English? Are they beloved enemies that are elected? You bet they are.
  13. Truther

    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    You fail to understand that God made a deal with Abraham, which deal will be honored at the return of Christ.... Heb 8 8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: 9 Not...
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes. Don't voluntarily blind yourself by preteristic presuppositions.
  15. Truther

    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    Yes, a covenant with Abraham, not you or I.
  16. Truther

    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    You don't get our subject. Our subject is God's future covenant with someone else that we are barely included in, in a partial way.
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    The beliefs of the early Chiliasts were the antithesis of modern Premil

    This does not say God made a covenant with the gentiles.