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I love how people keep telling me what I think on this site. It doesn't destroy my claim about Antiochus I see it as the judgement day which is just after the second coming. Its a vision into the far future showing that all who oppose God will be judged

So once again are you rejecting that Antiochus Epehanies desecrated the temple alter?

If they are the same then how come Daniel 7 shows that the fourth beast is cast into the fire but the other three beast are allowed to still live for a while and then as you say this same beast of revelation (which has these there beast within it) is cast into the lake of fire? If they are the...

Well I don’t see the second coming in that text but it is the judgement day. Daniel 7 has two views of the future (to the time of the text) the vision of the ancient of days and the vision of the son of man man coming on the clouds too heaven. These two visions are to give hope to the people...

So are you rejecting that Antiochus Epehanies didn’t desecrate the temple alter?

The Pharisees and many others including the deciples had Jesus wrong because they thought that Jesus would bring in a physical kingdom and kick out the Romans and rule His kingdom from Jerusalem. This is a mistake that I believe many Christians still have wrong today as Jesus said to pilot that...

Yes and you have posted this to me many times before and I disagreed with you every time. We don’t have the same views of this but that being said doesn’t prove anything. Weather I state something or you state something doesn’t make it a fact just different views we could both be wrong

Okay and what does John say the antichrist spirit is and what does John say that the purpose of the antichrist is? Now what does John say that the sea beast of revelation is and what does John say the sea beast purpose is? John shows that they are different beings with different purposes...

You keep making claims about me which are not true you assume things and accuse me of them this is a very bad way to debate. We should debate in grace and love shouldn’t we? No one told me to read the book of Maccabees I read it myself. It is recorded history

Are you rejecting that Antiochus Epehanies didn’t desecrate the temple alter? The coming on the clouds in the Olivit discourse I believe to be coming in judgement. Jesus predicted the destruction of the temple with a date attached to it and history shows that it happened when Jesus said it...

A demonic being influencing Rome and it’s leaders mainly Nero A demo being influencing mainly apostate Israel A devotion to Nero Cesar being devoted to him (mark on the head) and don’t his will (mark on the right hand)

That’s not what I said I said that I learned it from a Christian Jew

Well I took you who I learned it from if you don’t want to believe me then that’s on you

Matthew 24:15-20 15 “So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17 Let no one on the housetopgo down to take anything out of the...

Did you even read my post? The answers are there and I said who I learned it from The temple was desecrated more than once

I didn’t learn this from any Pharisees I was shown it by a Christian Jew The AOD that Jesus talked about was in His future but Antiochus Epehanies did the one Daniel mentioned. If you read the book of Maccabees it would show a lot of Daniels events. These things did happen in history after...

170/1 B.C. Onias 3rd is murdered (cut off and has nothing) the second anointed one the last of the Zadokite priesthood which was the start of the 70th week. 167 B.C. Antiochus Epiphanies 4th desecrates the temple ½ way through the 70th week. The abomination that caused desolation. 164/3 B.C...

That's a matter of opinion I believe that it has.

I believe that Antiochus Epehanies was the little horn there is a great case for this

Well he is more like the false prophet than the sea beast but it is a spirit and many