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  1. Phoneman777

    A Third Jewish Temple is Required

    "The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom" "These great beasts, whcih are four, are four kings (kingdoms)" Look, thanks, but I'd rather not discuss these issues with you, seeing that you're abandonment of what's plain and explicit can only lead to errors too extreme to even consider.
  2. Phoneman777

    A Third Jewish Temple is Required

    What's that to do with Paul's inspired teaching that the "restrainer" is pagan Rome, according to the ECFs? One can easily see how spot on they were to identify the papacy as the antichrist...and were kept from Jesuit seductions of which you have swallowed hook, line, and sinker, friend. The...
  3. Phoneman777

    A Third Jewish Temple is Required

    Let's forget about your "historic facts" for a moment and let's judge whether Daniel 8 identifies or excludes Antiochus as the Little Horn. Please answer the following 4 points, point by point, preferably limiting one point per post for clarity: 1. The only thing Antiochus Epiphanes IV was...
  4. Phoneman777

    A Third Jewish Temple is Required

    Please spare us the ad hominem and just stick to Scriptural points, thank you. The same sentiment toward you is held by us, but let our unanswerable arguments do the talking. As expected, no answer except to say "fabricated": Noun/pronoun antecedent rules demand "winds" is the object of "them"...
  5. Phoneman777

    A Third Jewish Temple is Required

    You're failure to answer my unanswerable argument betrays you. How would you feel if someone referred to the home of your mother as "Whorehouse Haven"? Would that be an acceptable reference to you, or would you be ready to start throwing hands? Yet, you expect us to believe God refers to a...
  6. Phoneman777

    A Third Jewish Temple is Required

    I think the ECFs were in a far better position than us to comment on what prevailing eschatological ideas were circulating at that time, and we all know that if they agreed with you, you'd be championing their every word - but they don't. They agree with me, that the "restrainer" was Pagan Rome...
  7. Phoneman777

    A Third Jewish Temple is Required

    The papacy occupies no more space than prophecy demands, and certainly doesn't teach papal centrality. A "beast" is a "kingdom" - not Satan. The Papal kingdom is the Beast of Revelation 13. The ECFs agree Paul told the Thessalonians in person what he refused to write down in his letter: that...
  8. Phoneman777

    A Third Jewish Temple is Required

    So, men who were almost 2 thousand years closer in proximity to Paul, intimately aware of the prevailing beliefs circulating at that time - are not to be trusted, but lying Jesuits should be? No, the reason you don't trust the ECFs is because their testimony fully establishes Protestant...
  9. Phoneman777

    A Third Jewish Temple is Required

    In another post, I showed how the Roman church does just that via their "Immaculate Conception" doctrine. No - the "whore" is an apostate church, not those who've dropped off the prophetic timeline forever when the Gospel was taken from them and given to the Gentiles. No way the Greek...
  10. Phoneman777

    A Third Jewish Temple is Required

    I don't expect Jesuit Futurists and Jesuit Preterists to know how it is the papal antichrist denies Jesus Christ has come in the flesh - they're too busy drinking the Jesuit Koolaid to give Protestant Historicism the attention it deserves, though it defined the entire Protestant world for over...
  11. Phoneman777

    Why its important to keep the Sabbath

    Look, you can't hate on the Peshitta simply because it's a 2nd century Syriac translation while clinging to your 16th century (and beyond) English translations. If "1st century" is what is required, then we all better get busy learning Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek, right or wrong? As for me, I'll...
  12. Phoneman777

    Everyone Goes to Heaven

    No wonder you're so confused...you actually think Lucifer started out corrupt! "How art thou fallen..." "Thou wast perfect in thy ways...till iniquity was found in thee." "And God saw everything He had made, and behold, it was very good". Satan's evil "beginning" took place when he ceased to...
  13. Phoneman777

    A Third Jewish Temple is Required

    Galatians 4 does NOT depict an apostate church - it's an illustration concerning the passing away of the OC and the arrival of the NC. It's incredible how Jesuit Futurists like yourself deny what the entire Protestant Historicist world knew and taught for centuries, as if papal Jesuits are...
  14. Phoneman777

    Why its important to keep the Sabbath

    If you're not reading Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic, you're not "1st century".
  15. Phoneman777

    Everyone Goes to Heaven

    "...and never shalt thou (Satan) be anymore". - Ezekiel 28 Ever heard a sermon on how "suffering is redemptive"? How that sometimes a man never looks up until he's flat on his back or how that sometimes a man doesn't get on his knees until the burden is to heavy to bear? I've heard of...
  16. Phoneman777

    Everyone Goes to Heaven

    Yes, but such a shame it will be too late. What a sad thing for a man to cross the point of no return. "There is a line, unseen, which crosses every path; the hidden boundary between, God's mercy and His wrath."
  17. Phoneman777

    Everyone Goes to Heaven

    Yep, the way I read it, New Jerusalem descends to Earth 1,000 years after the Second Coming with all the saints who were resurrected 1,000 years prior as the wicked of all ages are coming up in the Resurrection of the Damned, and after some time they advance toward the City to surround it...when...
  18. Phoneman777

    A Third Jewish Temple is Required

    Davy, buddy, how many times I gotta tell you God would never refer to a building as the "temple of God" in which the sacrifices denying the Lamb of God would be a national middle finger in the face of God? How many times, Davy? How many times I gotta tell you that every time Paul calls the...