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    When we are born.

    I am answering this query for you, you just do not like my answer because you do not agree with it. It should answer your question in your post entitled "righteousness and Holiness" As well. Let me put it simply for you. We begin our Christian journey being complete, from there we are purged...
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    When we are born.

    It is called being of one accord: G3661 Homothymadon with one mind, with one accord, with one passion A unique Greek word, used 10 of its 12 New Testament occurrences in the Book of Acts, helps us understand the uniqueness of the Christian community. Homothumadon is a compound of two words...
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    When we are born.

    Why are you dodging the points i made as well? Here let me repeat them for you: ↑ Rather, "progressive sanctification" is a personal description of their perceptions of them self, and others. Someone seems "more holy", so they are being "progressively made more holy". And these are they which...
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    When we are born.

    Once again, a failure to respond to the scriptural points made in my comment. Who is the one who is dodging here???????
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    When we are born.

    What this shows is that there is a work of purging (pruning) Done by God after we are made clean (instant sanctification) Which is the biblical basis for Progressive sanctification. See Mark 4:20 Above. Renewing your mind is a part of that purging process, there is more to it than Just that.
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    When we are born.

    And these are they which are sown on good ground; such as hear the word, and receive it, and bring forth fruit, some thirtyfold, some sixty, and some an hundred. Mark 4:20 If God is the one that grants the growth and determines how much fruit is produced, Then there is no way that this should...
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    When we are born.

    That is an outright lie. If someone holds to a different set of teachings than you, you are quick to call them a heretic or a legalist or what have you, Gideon is one of many examples of this, for which you yourself was suspended off of Worthy forum, So do not condemn me for the same crime you...
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    When we are born.

    Read John 15 Again, especially verses 2-3 A branch that is producing fruit must be purged (Pruned) so that it can produce more fruit. Now think of the Parable of the talents. What happened to the one who hid the talent away and did nothing with it? Matthew 25:14-30 Yes, we are already clean by...
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    When we are born.

    SIGH!
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    When we are born.

    My Criticism at the outset was of the doctrine, not the person. In so doing I was forced to discuss the fruit of this doctrine which you see as accusation against you which in reality is the conviction of the Holy Ghost, which you blame me for being judgmental of you because of your desire to...
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    When we are born.

    I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the...
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    When we are born.

    He has more to give us that we have yet to fully comprehend, the unsearchable riches of His grace, can you agree with this?
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    When we are born.

    It is your doctrine that I am criticizing and the fruit it is producing in you. You can deny this all you want, for ignorance is bliss, or you can act upon this conviction and grow and mature in Christ, the choice is yours. Remain where you are or grow?
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    When we are born.

    So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. (Isaiah 55:11) The Problem is you are looking for the "unity of the Mind" Not the unity of the Spirit.... You...
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    When we are born.

    Is a sapling a full grown fruit producing tree? No it must mature and grow in order to produce fruit. This is our Spiritual journey, we never stop growing or producing fruit if we do we are dying. Jesus uses this illustration in John 15:1-5 I suggest you read this.
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    When we are born.

    Think about it this way, the problem is in your doctrine in this post which promotes spiritual smugness.
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    When we are born.

    I Am still learning to fly, My words are not polished, my soaring not yet effortless, But at least I am off the ground and flying. He has given you wings too, will you use them? Isaiah 40:31 "It is not about me being right it is about US getting it right! " This is Part two of my calling, and...
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    When we are born.

    I Am not the one saying "we are complete" I am saying we all need to grow in Grace, so no this is not me for I am not comparing you to me but you to Christ and myself to Christ. Think about it this way, the problem is in your doctrine in this post which promotes spiritual smugness.
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    When we are born.

    It is Known as the Latter rain to some, the final outpouring, the final end time revival, It will occur when the tares are removed from the church By The Fire that burns and the angels sent to gather them in the fire, and then we who remain will be of "one accord" again, and perform Greater...
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    When we are born.

    Spirit-Taught "A man can receive nothing." That is the burden of the Bible. Whatever men may think of human reason God takes a low view of it. "Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?" Man's reason is a fine...