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    I believe that gay people have as much of a "choice" to be gay as you do to not sin

    Well, there is no correction the point of the final Judgment ~ the Great White Throne judgment of Revelation 20:11-15 ~ but only judgment and the resulting once-and-for-all condemnation ~ everlasting punishment. But sure. Grace and peace to you.
  2. PinSeeker

    I believe that gay people have as much of a "choice" to be gay as you do to not sin

    Right, and that's why I said, "We'll agree to disagree"... that's... generally what that means. :) But regarding the specific assertion of mine you were referring to here, which was, "many are dead in this life, and, one day, will (permanently) perish, it seems impossible to refute that but...
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    I believe that gay people have as much of a "choice" to be gay as you do to not sin

    I... don't think that was his intent; it certainly didn't seem that way. And even so, to refer to people in such a derisive way, even if innocuously ~ and maybe especially if innocuously ~ is despicable, really. Words are very important; the tongue is indeed a fire. Sadly, many are dead in...
  4. PinSeeker

    What is the one true Church?

    There is one holy catholic and apostolic church, for sure. This is Christ's (invisible, for now) Church. Grace and peace to all.
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    I believe that gay people have as much of a "choice" to be gay as you do to not sin

    That's... an odd ~ and contradictive, and self-incriminating, really ~ way to put it... You certainly say some... well, interesting... things, Matthew. Grace and peace to you.
  6. PinSeeker

    I believe that gay people have as much of a "choice" to be gay as you do to not sin

    Not if they are unrepentant, which is kind of what this thread is about. Unrepentant sinners are not children of God, neither in this life nor (certainly) the next. Grace and peace to you.
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    I believe that gay people have as much of a "choice" to be gay as you do to not sin

    Well, is Paul (and ultimately God; it is His Word) not clear in Galatians 5 that sexual immorality and impurity, among other things, is a work of the flesh, and that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God? He did talk about sexual sin, Jim, and in so doing clearly said...
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    A serious thread for witnessing to Jehovah

    Not completely, no. God's thoughts and ways are higher than ours (Isaiah 55), and His knowledge is high and unattainable (Psalm 139). But that does not somehow mean that He cannot be understood at all. Hey, Matthew, don't we all purport to understand Him at least to some extent? And, I would...
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    A serious thread for witnessing to Jehovah

    Well, it can... :) ... in the spirit of being agreeable... (see what I did there?) :) But, well, context is everything. After crying out, "It is finished," as recounted by John (in John 19:30), are we to understand that Jesus "gave up His..." emotion? With all due respect, I think not; I...
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    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    Yes. :) As I have said, in Luke 23:43, Jesus, just before dying, tells the thief crucified on His right, "Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise." Now, their bodies were soon thereafter in their tombs, but they were in paradise, that very day, just as Jesus said they would...
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    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    Oh, yes it is... :) Among others, this is, as I have said several times in this thread, exactly what Paul says in Ephesians 2:4-6 ~ "But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ ~ by...
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    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    Well no, it means to raise from the dead, just like all your definitions above say. In this life, we are raised spiritually in Christ from the dead, just as Paul says in Ephesians 2, and when Jesus comes back, we will experience the second, physical resurrection, if we are not still alive in...
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    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    Well, that depends on what you mean by "new." :) Absolutely. Hm, well, a bit of clarification, here: For those who are still physically alive when the Lord returns, of which there will be many, "...(they) will be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye." This is the distinction...
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    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    In most all of your latest citations, VCO, what is being referred to is the physical body. Paul is differentiating between the spirit and the body throughout, especially to the Corinthians, a troubled church in many, many ways, and so many of those troubles still exist, this being one of the...
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    Does God love burning people in hell?

    Not sure how you got that from what I said either, Brakelite. No, I did not somehow equate what you say I equated. Very puzzling. Well maybe in your mind that is the "next logical step," but... I guess I would question ~ rhetorically speaking ~ whether you really listened to what I said or...
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    Keep The Sabbath ???

    You're certainly welcome to your opinion. :) You mean... rebuttal, I think... :) That's not quite what I said, QT. I said, and I quote, "the Sabbath command has both a moral and a ceremonial element to it." So, you may not be intentionally doing so, but you are here, none the less...
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    Does God love burning people in hell?

    Hmmm, interesting. :) Well, I don't know if you're a Calvinist or not (I am), but John Calvin believed it was a historical event also. There was disagreement on this even back then and before, and continues even today. I disagree (yes, even as a Calvinist, I disagree with him on this...
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    Keep The Sabbath ???

    Well, His body was "sleeping," in the tomb. We are never told what He was actually doing on that Sabbath day, but only know from what He said just before His death, as recorded in Luke 23, that He was in paradise (starting on Friday), and the thief crucified on His right was with Him. :) No...
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    Keep The Sabbath ???

    Sure, very well. I agree that 1:7 refers to Christ's return, but in 1:10, John is beginning his recounting of the vision that he received, and stating where he was and what he was doing at the outset. I'm really not sure what you mean by verse 10 referring back to verse seven, but... that's...
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    Does God love burning people in hell?

    Are you saying, Jack, that it is an actual historical event? Grace and peace to you.