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    Does God love burning people in hell?

    What??? LOL! My goodness. Well, I'm not going to even hazard a guess how you got here, but, hey, good for you for not buying in to pre-existence or reincarnation. LOL! Seriously, though, you sound a bit like Nicodemus in John 3. :) Grace and peace to you.
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    Keep The Sabbath ???

    Understood. We disagree. Again, disagree. a.) Jesus was not observing the Sabbath the day before His resurrection. :) b.) Yes, John was Jewish, but John, unlike most Jews of his day, was a believer in Christ, and therefore he was, like all we who believe today, in Christ. As such, I feel...
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    Keep The Sabbath ???

    No, those are two very different things. The good work that God has begun in us He will bring to completion at the Day of Christ, as Paul says in Philippians 1:6), the Day of Christ being when He returns, so I'm agreeing with you there. But John spoke/wrote of the Lord's day in Revelation 1:10...
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    Keep The Sabbath ???

    Well, I respect your opinion, QuietThinker. There are some things that you say here that I agree with... and other things not so much. Most basically, I don't think you quite understand what I am saying, which is that there is no longer, actually, a Sabbath Day as it were, I'm not sure...
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    Does God love burning people in hell?

    Okay, well, I say that the spirit we have will exist, one way or the other, into eternity (future), and that is one of the ways that we are created in the image of God. Regarding our bodies, I totally agree. But our spirits... Admittedly, it's a little difficult to put into words. The two...
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    Keep The Sabbath ???

    Well, I certainly agree, if this is what you are saying, that remembering the Sabbath is not merely cognitive ~ or quiet thinking; see what I did there? :) ~ in practice. And, for sure, it is very common for folks to think to little ~ or too much ~ into Biblical things. I might be...
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    Faithful God

    In the face of the unspeakable evil perpetrated in my church on March 27, 2023, here in Nashville, Tennessee, God has been faithful to us as a church body (as if that were a new thing...). Praise God from Whom all blessings flow!
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    Keep The Sabbath ???

    Commandment number 4 of the Ten Commandments is not somehow revoked. There is disagreement on what day the Sabbath is now, but we are still commanded to remember the Sabbath Day ~ which is now the Lord's Day (Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath; Matthew 12:1–8, Mark 2:23–28 and Luke 6:1–5), the...
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    How Many Christians Believe When We DIE, Our Human Spirit Goes Instantly To HEAVEN?

    Hello, VCO. I am very much with you that our spirits go directly to be with the Lord. We can look at what Jesus says (in Luke 23:43) to the thief crucified on His right and see that, like him, we will go to be with the Lord in paradise the very day that we die. Agreed. But regarding being...
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    Does God love burning people in hell?

    No argument, really, but I would disagree with your assertion, "common among Christian faiths." But yes, beyond mere paganism, I would call it cultic. See above; case in point. Yeah, again, not so "commonplace," Hmmm, you seem to be taking the writer of Ecclesiastes out of context here...
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    Luke 15 demonstrates that Jesus is a universalist

    Well, agreed, but this 'destroying' is not to be conflated with complete 'annihilation.' It is to be understood more along the lines of complete devastation and even ruination, with no hope of redemption. Perhaps you agree. Grace and peace to you.
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    Luke 15 demonstrates that Jesus is a universalist

    Only because you're not understanding what I'm telling you... or possibly that you just refuse to. Or possibly both. God's thoughts and ways are much higher than ours (Isaiah 55:8-9), and we, like David, cannot attain to it (Psalm 139:6), so in some sense it may seem ambiguous to us, but that...
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    Luke 15 demonstrates that Jesus is a universalist

    Just to speak to this conversation regarding infants and salvation... Along the exact same lines as Patrick and I have been discussing regarding the merits or lack thereof universalism... God has mercy on whom He will have mercy, and He has compassion upon whom He will have compassion. This is...
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    Luke 15 demonstrates that Jesus is a universalist

    I would submit to you, Patrick, that Romans 5:18 speaks to the sufficiency of Christ's act on the cross to lead to the justification of all, but not all are justified. Paul is writing this letter to the church in Rome (and to us as Christians by extension), of course, not to all. The whole of...
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    you need to get rid of the sinful nature!

    Well, it's not possible in this life. But because of the new nature we've been given, we can battle against it, for sure. And one day, that battle will be won; we are assured of that. We are more than conquerors through Him Who loved us (Romans 8:37), and nothing can separate us from the love...
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    Luke 15 demonstrates that Jesus is a universalist

    Not those who are of Israel, I agree. And I would agree with you even of those who are not Israel, either, but in a very different way. Grace and peace to you.
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    Luke 15 demonstrates that Jesus is a universalist

    Yes, I know. And that's... okay. :) Maybe you'll change your mind someday. Or I should say, maybe the Spirit will. :) Grace and peace to you.
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    Luke 15 demonstrates that Jesus is a universalist

    Oh, boy. Ugh. The book of Lamentations, Patrick, is written to the Israelites in their exile to Babylon assuring them that God's judgment placed upon them is temporary and will not last forever, that their relationship with God will be restored, and that God's mercy and faithfulness ~ and even...
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    Luke 15 demonstrates that Jesus is a universalist

    Yeah, not all of Young's is bad, but I would stay away from it. I would encourage you to try the ESV or the NASB. But this is not bad; do you not understand "to the ages of the ages" to be into eternity future, and forever and ever? And again, this lake of fire is the eternal dwelling place...
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    Luke 15 demonstrates that Jesus is a universalist

    I think the problem here, Michlah-Imla ~ not to insinuate that you (or anyone else) has a "problem," but only that there is one... :) ~ is what some think this "eternal torture" to be. There will be no physical torture administered by anyone ~ much by less God ~ for any length of time. But...