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  1. David kilmer

    Once Saved Always Saved Garbage Teaching!!

    Good point. Plus it gets even harder with a bunch of different versions of the Bible or religions and churches in the world. Each person seems to perceive things differently they each have their OWN mind and thats how the father God wanted it and I think it's better that way, more variety of...
  2. David kilmer

    Once Saved Always Saved Garbage Teaching!!

    Last but not least the richness of you comes in as well. So it's God, others, you.
  3. David kilmer

    Once Saved Always Saved Garbage Teaching!!

    I agree. Some likewise see him as white, or holy, while others see him as black, or a vengeful unforgiving deity that only chastises. The gray is where some are undecided, confused, or not knowing what to do or what God is, or what to do with him but we have the Bible and his Messengers to tell...
  4. David kilmer

    Once Saved Always Saved Garbage Teaching!!

    People in hell still needed to learn and be knowing. They needed to know God.
  5. David kilmer

    Once Saved Always Saved Garbage Teaching!!

    Jesus preached to the souls in hell and they went to heaven and reincarnated on Earth.
  6. David kilmer

    Once Saved Always Saved Garbage Teaching!!

    Has anyone here ever been Catholic?
  7. David kilmer

    Once Saved Always Saved Garbage Teaching!!

    Christ paid the penalty for our sins on the cross. He was the ultimate atonement as he had to live and suffer for our sins. Through this he was a holy sacrifice for our sins and passed the test he had to and then became a good God and he blessed the apostles and saints and he has love for...
  8. David kilmer

    Once Saved Always Saved Garbage Teaching!!

    And the souls in hell or Hades.
  9. David kilmer

    Once Saved Always Saved Garbage Teaching!!

    I know what verse you are speaking of. Good verse! Gods desire is to be in the light and help and teach and instruct the living people.
  10. David kilmer

    Once Saved Always Saved Garbage Teaching!!

    The Bible says that we are sinners and we need Jesus help
  11. David kilmer

    Once Saved Always Saved Garbage Teaching!!

    I apologize for that I know it's wrong. Being saved is the richness of God worked and willed in us as a new being.
  12. David kilmer

    Once Saved Always Saved Garbage Teaching!!

    I just struggle sometimes.
  13. David kilmer

    Once Saved Always Saved Garbage Teaching!!

    I can be assured I'll go to heaven. I passed the test and won the race set before us with endurance and had good counsellors at the church and here I like the church and the Bible and Jesus and it does interest me.
  14. David kilmer

    Once Saved Always Saved Garbage Teaching!!

    They need to have the spiritual nature.
  15. David kilmer

    Once Saved Always Saved Garbage Teaching!!

    I'd say that it is a definitive statement.
  16. David kilmer

    Once Saved Always Saved Garbage Teaching!!

    I'd say that anyone can grow but how they want.
  17. David kilmer

    Limited atonement means salvation by grace. Universal atonement means salvation by works.

    I know what you mean though. Some people need God and his righteousness.
  18. David kilmer

    Limited atonement means salvation by grace. Universal atonement means salvation by works.

    God is self skilled because he made water. He later made black. He has the right to drink coffee or soda, he literally made it. He may have made milk which is like a much lower form of coffee. God made warm and cool. He also made light. Am I unwise? There's nothing wrong with being self skilled...