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from the narrative of people like @Aunty Jane and @Phoneman777 and @quietthinker and all the nutso JW's creeping around this place. theorems are proven or disproven at their extrema.

but when God first created Adam -- did He make Adam in order to utterly annihilate Adam, or in order that Adam have eternal life with his Creator? set aside the issue of sin for a moment, that poisons us: are we designed as eternal beings or designed as disposable, temporary trash?

Christ is God and does not need 'fortification' - Elijah and Moses are not going 'don't worry, Lord Christ, it will be ok, be brave, don't cry' as you suggest, but Christ is explaining to them the mystery of His purpose and what He will do at the cross, which had been hidden from all creation...

maybe 'stupid idea' was a poor way to phrase it on my part, but Mark & Luke make it clear that what Peter suggested was not wise. so we have the question, why does God put this into the narrative? why record Peter suggesting something foolish? and the answer to that is in part to instruct us...

look at what is written in Mark and Luke -- Peter suggested this because he did not know what he was saying. IOW -- it was a stupid idea; Peter & the others were frightened, and not thinking clearly.

muse on that with me then: did He, in the sight of the angels, create the living souls with the purpose that He should annihilate them? was God's intent of forming Adam to destroy Adam?

the angels rejoiced when they saw us created, and longed to look into the things of the gospel To me, who am less than the least of all the saints, this grace was given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ, and to make all see what is the fellowship of the...

person is not only the natural body; therefore not the natural body at all, which is temporal. this is exactly the reason Christ, who is eternal life, said do not fear those who can only destroy the body -- fear Him who can destroy both body and soul: which is not a promise He annihilates all...

So if He does not annihilate Satan I see no probable reason to presume He treats the spirit of man differently - He is not a respecter of persons

This is not different than the case with angels, whom He also made and quickened So it is a question of what is God's nature? He does not annihilate Satan. If we say it is unjust that He does not annihilate man, then we have not escaped accusing Him.

So, in brief, you have argued that angels are spiritual beings, and spiritual things do not cease to exist, whereas earthly things do - correct? And you have also agreed that we ((and by extension all living souls, which includes all animal life)) are not merely physical beings but also have...

עֶשְׁתֹּנָה is dialogismos in Greek, per LXX. it only appears in the OT once. it doesn't pertain to basic existence of thought but to specific reasoning, intentions, plans, judgements, disputation, deliberation etc. if i said 'i don't have any dialogismos' i wouldn't be saying that my...

these diverse options give two immediately divergent implications: the Bible is true the Bible lies Saul went there in disguise. does the scripture still call him Saul? i don't care if you cite 100 verses with the implication that they make the Bible untrue. the fact will be that you have...

goodnight.

it is evident that on this topic Marks & i believe what is written, and you do not. For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit (Hebrews 4:12)

Elijah says the boys soul returns to him, as though it has departed. not that it has ceased to exist. the woman says the word of the LORD is in Elijah's mouth, and is true. ((1 Kings 17:24)) is this evidence she believes the lie of Satan, in your opinion?

yet the soul exists. it was no longer present in the boys body, and God put it back into the boys body, and the boy again lived, in the body. that's what the scripture says. Elijah did not pray "let a new copy of the boy's soul be created and deceive us into thinking the boy who was...

oh? which verse in the account says that? or is it just something you quietly think which has no basis in the text?

define "death" ? For Thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt Thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. (Psalm 16:10) hell there is a poor translation. it's sheol. according to scripture, at least some souls go there. some are left there & some are not left there. they exist...

pardon me, but it is explicitly speaking of the soul continuing to exist apart from the separation of the spirit from the body, being an entity distinct from the body, and 'going somewhere' not once but twice. 'insanity' is an abstract & non-specific description of a temporary state of mind...