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    There is NO proof text in scripture.

    Titus 2:11-13 For the saving grace of God was manifested to all men, teaching us, that denying the impiety and the worldly desires, soberly and righteously and piously we may live in the present age, waiting for the blessed hope and manifestation of the glory of our great God and Saviour Jesus...
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    There is NO proof text in scripture.

    the written word is written by the inspiration of the Spirit and understood through the Spirit. it is what the Spirit says: He does not speak of His own, but glorifies Christ, taking what is Christ's and making it known. that's what the scripture is #1 issue in our discussions of scripture IMO...
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    There is NO proof text in scripture.

    the spirit of prophecy is the testimony of Christ. the scripture is the testimony of Christ. i would be very careful not to speak against studying it; to know Him is life - and we have a book that testifies of Him from cover to cover what else could possibly be more worth reading?
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    There is NO proof text in scripture.

    what things? Hear My doctrine, O My people: incline your ears unto the words of My mouth. (Psalm 78:1)
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    There is NO proof text in scripture.

    Blessed the man that doth not walk in the counsel of the wicked, nor stand in the way of sinners, nor sit in the seat of the scornful, but his delight in the law of the LORD, and in his law doth he meditate day and night! (Psalm 1:1-2)
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    There is NO proof text in scripture.

    the famous "Johanine comma" ?
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    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    additionally: Genesis 3, 4, 6, 15, 19, Exodus 16, 20, 23, 30, 34; Deuteronomy 6, Isaiah 42, 43, 48, Matthew 4, 6, 10, 18, Mark 4, Luke 4, 24, John 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 13, 14, 17, 20, 21, Acts 2, 4, 10, Romans 1, 11, 12, 1 Corinthians 3, 6, Hebrews 1 and many more... and the point...
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    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    Acts 14, Revelation 22, Luke 22, Exodus 3 @keithr
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    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    If you don't recognize the scriptural references I am making without having me give them all to you one by one then you have no business thinking to 'debate' doctrine. You need to go read the Book
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    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    wow have you thought your argument through at all? Jesus Christ is KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS. His throne is in Jerusalem. if, per your objection, He is King over ALL THE EARTH but not Israel specifically, then He is even greater and higher than the actual King of Israel, which is the...
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    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    actually your version does -- compare carefully between the ABP i posted and your LXX text.. much of what is written in the original Hebrew of this verse ((as verified by the dead sea scrolls)) is simply missing there.
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    Was Jesus a spirit being before coming to earth as a human?

    yes, thanks -- here is a screenshot from the apostolic Bible polyglot... some watchtowerite had made the argument that the LXX translates "mighty God" as 'Messenger of great council' ((because watchtowerites hate the deity of Christ and seek always to pervert and delete scripture that shows...
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    HERESY?

    @GodsGrace Justin Martyr's 'Dialogue with Trypho' from ~ 155-160AD details the reasonings and doctrine around 'the 8th day' link to English translation here: Saint Justin Martyr: Dialogue with Trypho (Roberts-Donaldson) Trypho was a prominent Jew essentially giving the argument of the...
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    HERESY?

    yes -- they were commemorating the day He rose later, the church began distancing itself from Judaism as much as it could, which is more or less how we got to celebrating Eostare instead of Pascha ((tho the 'easter' word doesn't show up at all until medieval times, in German translations: all...
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    HERESY?

    thanks =]
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    HERESY?

    wasn't it written in the 1300's-1500's by a Muslim who believed Christ was *just a prophet* that prostrated Himself before Mohammed?
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    HERESY?

    yes! they slaughter the national lamb in the temple, and at exactly that moment THE LAMB delivers His spirit to the Father in heaven: the veil is rent, top to bottom on First Fruits after the sabbath, He rises, greets the women, and presents His body also in the temple in heaven - waving the...
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    Who you really are

    how do you know computer programs exist? you don't observe Apple's base code. you only see the result of it, & assume it must exist because the hardware that you can actually observe has extraordinarily organized behavior. maybe IOS is an emergent behavior from throwing a bunch of circuitry and...
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    Who you really are

    i have a sword. =]
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    Who you really are

    the existence of a wikipage about something doesn't make it true. how much does your consciousness weigh?