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ok, then maybe the double judgment of Mystery Babylon means a second judgment for the world as well as Israel......only now it is a bigger and wider world. I think that is possible...something to consider, just off the top of my head. I will keep it in mind going forward and try to see if it...

It is both physical death and spiritual death that happens to us. Sin SEPARATED us from God and we no longer retained Him in our knowledge. We became dis-connected from God I think we could say and lost awareness of Him. But when we come to faith in Christ, we become reconciled and...

I agree that wrath was to the Jew first in 70 AD, but also the world will be judged. Just as His mercy through the gospel was to the Jew first then the Gentile (world) His wrath is to the Jew first, then the Gentile (world). Rom 2:9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth...

Are we going to waste time splitting hair's.....I'm beginning to suspect you are scrutinizing for any little point to try and make hay out of it just for the sake of discrediting me and winning an argument, not to get at the truth. Won't pretend to be surprised though. Anything given, must be...

Mercy triumphs over judgment for those who receive that mercy, yes. The gospel is the remedy for judgment. But sadly not all will receive the gospel, so they don't receive mercy....they will be judged without mercy. Better read that verse again. Anyhow, told you I don't want to play 20...

I don’t have all day to ferret out every scripture on what judgment means, but I think these should be enough to tie judgment with wrath…against those who aren’t found in the book of life. Yes we will all be judged but the difference is not all will be judged with mercy……there will be those who...

What is being scoffed is the idea of God pouring out His wrath and judging. Are you going to address the scripture I posted?

It is appointed unto man but once to die.........and THEN the judgment. Agree there is wrath now and that the whole world lies under it. Suffering and death are having their moment right now.....the wages of sin. But we are also warned of a future day of wrath and perdition of the ungodly...

2Pe 3:3-7 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are...

God has loved His enemies....He sent His only begotten Son to die for them. No greater love than that. But that is a door that will be closed one day......as scripture clearly teaches. You believe that is unrighteous....well Steven that is your opinion but it changes nothing about what the...

If you have a point to make, then please feel free to make it. I am not very good at playing "twenty questions".

Not sure it means "eternal conscious torment".........as I have already said, I believe the wages of sin is death......the Lake of Fire means second death. Broad way leads to destruction. I stand to be corrected or tweeked if that is wrong, no problem.....and we only know in part....but that...

A humble and contrite heart He will not despise. He won't turn anyone away who humbly bends the knee and seeks Him and comes to Him in contrition. But His wrath is a real thing. Though His ways are higher than man's....it's not as if He is consumed with emotions that make Him lose His temper...

Oh here we go. When some people see things in the bible that doesn't agree with their pet doctrines, they want to bring out the questionable content card. That's always convenient isn't it. But why don't they question the legitimacy of scriptures that they believe support their doctrines...

He is the Lord God Almighty. And we were created by Him.....for His purposes. Some were created to be vessels of His wrath, in a foreknowledge, sovereign kind of way, including the devil created for His purposes. His wrath is not unjust, it is perfectly just. So it is not sin. Read the...

The bible explicitly says of some that they will perish like the beasts of the earth. We were all given the gift of a temporal life just like the animals, and without Christ all will die like the animals. God doesn't owe anyone eternal life. But some will get hold of it through faith in...

The difference is that you are not God. We are mere human beings who fell short of the glory. So we have no right to sit in judgment on our fellow creatures. These are the days/years of God's longsuffering (age of grace) spoken about in 2 Peter 3.......so we are to longsuffer our enemies with...

You sure you're not splitting hairs? I think the important thing is to approach and handle the word of God the way He would want, the way it is meant to be. By not separating the word from the One who is speaking it. That is the point of the scripture I brought....to speak His word is to speak...

Well it's long past time to grow up and face REALITY and leave our childhood view of life behind. The gospel is only good news to those who will receive it. But there is bad news for those who won't......because they will face the wrath of God....the wages of sin is death. Whoever said there...

Haven't you heard that God knows both good and evil? That HE created the destroyer to work havoc, and that I the Lord create both good and evil? His justice is not unrighteous, it is righteous. His wrath is righteous. He owes mercy to no one, but is willing to reveal it to some, to those He...