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Although Christians live in this world, their allegiance is to Heaven. (RBC)

You may think that it is "off topic" for me to announce that 200million Christians in 60 countries are being persecuted for their faith. When I read your post about how blessed we are from reading the Word, I couldn't help but think of them, these Christians who in many, many cases have no...

John MacArthur teaches "Lordship Salvation". which says that an unbeliever must commit all areas of his life to Christ in order to be saved. It is a works based salvation. In order to be saved one must believe, that is the gospel not that one must make Jesus Lord over all. John MacArthur in...

Really?? I don't see anyone begging for rocks to fall on them. Revelation 6

Pro 22:16 He who oppresses the poor to increase his riches, And he who gives to the rich, will surely come to poverty. I don't believe God is against Christians being wealthy. How they acquire their wealth could be a concern to Him. Pro 22:22 Do not rob the poor because he is poor, Nor oppress...

Justaname and so you assume that because none seeks after God, they must be regenerated before they can believe. You base too much on assumption to be credible. "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved (regenerated).

Justaname said I agree with that Scripture. But you are assuming the outcome of it. Your own words accuse you, "you see there must be". Superimposing your idea into the Scripture. Take it for what it says, "man's heart is deceitfully wicked beyond all things". So??????

When Abraham prepared to sacrifice his son God provided a substitute. When God prepared to sacrifice His son He became our substitute.

Very well argued Angelina. I agree that we must find the truth for ourselves through the Berean way. However God has gifted the church with teachers along with evangelists. pastors and prophets. I believe that is where those who are being discipled need to pray for wisdom and discernment. I...

Excellent explanation of Ephesians 1:13. I will take that on board. I do not agree with OSAS either but neither do I hold to the view that one must perform to remain saved called "Lordship Salvation".

He is not saying God is satanic. He means that the teaching whereby God refuses the efficacy of the blood of Christ to some is satanic.

He is actually conversing with His disciples. What comes into play however is the Scripture in 2Ti 3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, I am sort of a stickler for reading in context...

They are called Seeker Friendly churches, tickling ears to get numbers.

justaname, I like the sheep analogy also. Many of us have sheep in our families that have gone astray. Jesus is out there rounding them up right now. :)

Thanks Hammerstone. :) I know the world isn't automatically saved, the "whosoevers" of John 3:16 are saved. I have wrestled with that also but Limited Atonement is what keeps me out of it. Then I wonder why I even have to think of it. Shows how powerful Calvinism has become within the church...

Man can't have a free will and be predestined. Predestination is the backbone of Calvinism. In order for it to stand a few other doctrines had to be added. Predestination would not stand without Limited Atonement (God withholding the cross from some of mankind) Irresistible Grace, man is...

I would think they would be looking for Jesus to take them out more than any of us. :mellow: Isa_45:4 For Jacob My servant's sake, And Israel My elect, I have even called you by your name; I have named you, though you have not known Me. That is a good point and it made me stop and think...

Right, that was a long time ago, or it seems so. well I disagree with him on that. Time to trundle away from this thread it is not going anywhere especially when I am going over the same things. :P

Even us non Calvinists recognise that God is sovereign and if He did not limit Himself for reasons and purposes known to Him we would be living in fear that He would strike us dead because He felt like it. God's choices do have consequences. He chose to speak the universe into existence and it...

Veteran Nice try! That is usually what the Post Tribbers say. We are looking for a way of escape. Can you tell me why the church should go through any of The Tribulation not just part of it as the op ed asks? My faith in God is bigger than fear of the coming storm. Isaiah 43 :2 When thou...