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Thanks. THE Church is NOT a body of believers. The body of believers (the flock) are members of The Church, but they are not THE Church. The elders/overseers are THE Church. They oversee the flock and we are to Obey our leaders and submit to them—for they keep watch over your souls, and we are...

Hmmmm....so are you saying that Jesus broke his promise and never gave Peter the keys? Curious Mary

Thanks for your time Phoneman. It appears you have zero evidence to back up your "petros" doesn't mean "rock" - it means something like "rolling pebble" statement. I don't know why you can't just admit that. :IDK: Mary

Already answered that.....Moving on!

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You crack me up Wrangler. I never suggested anyone in the CC rules over you. It is not a line of questioning. It is one question that you can't answer. Clearly you are not in compliance with Scripture: Hebrews 13:17 Our discussion has nothing to do with the alleged abuse of power of the RCC...

Hey Zao, No, collectively all peoples, nations, tribes and tongues are not called The Church. All peoples, nations, tribes and tongues are members of The Church, but they are not THE Church. We are all members of the body of The Church, but each individual member is not THE Church (1...

That is true. We are told to have no divisions. Jesus even prayed that we may all be one. Since you no longer believe that the Catholic Church is The Church we are to unite under so that we may be One and have no divisions among us, what Church have you joined since leaving the Catholic Church...

No Wrongler, it is not a "Strawman". You made the false allegation that Catholics have to believe "Peter is the head of the church as a condition to be saved". What you said is not true. Can't you just apologize for your lie instead of doubling down? Also, stop repeating the lie that I said or...

Define many times? I found ONE answer to my question 'who rules over you wrangler', and here is your answer: No one on Earth rules over me. Sooooo let's try this again: :joyful: Scripture says obey those (church elders, overseers) that rule over you. Who rules over you Wrangler? :watching...

And your point is?

Wrangler, The main theme of all your bullet points seem to suggest that you have a theory that Peter was no more important than any other Apostle therefore he could not have been the leader of The Church. Here is why you are wrong: Jesus singled out Peter when He gave him the Keys to the...

Thanks Wrangler, You seem to think that I am saying that Peter is THE rock of The Church. I am not saying that and have made that clear already. Jesus is THE rock and chief cornerstone of The Church. No other foundation for The Church can be laid by any person. That means there is only One...

Hey Phoneman, I gave you links to back up what I said/believe so I asked you for any website links to back up your statement, "Jesus called Peter "petros" which doesn't mean "rock" - it means something like "rolling pebble" pushed to and fro," You said Greek scholars disagree with me. Your...

@Wrangler doesn't like those verses so he scratched them out of his bible. I have asked him who rules over him; he hasn't, to the best of my memory, answered that yet. :(

It's so funny that you can't address all the FACTS I posted.....:Zek:

Scripture doesn't say, I have never said in our conversations and The Church has never said that one has to believe "Peter is the head of the church as a condition to be saved". ANOTHER false accusation....Tisk Tisk. But that is par for the course with you. :woohoo!: No, it is not "clear that...

Oh goodness Wrangler.....you put the FUN in funny. There is no controversy or gotcha moment here. Like I said, Peter is not THE rock of The Church. Jesus is THE rock of The Church. Pay attention to emphasis in what I wrote. However Peter is, as Jesus said, the rock he will build His church...

Then you are not adhering to Scripture. :(