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I have spoken to some Muslims who actually believed that the Qu'ran came directly from God and not written by any man at all. However, they were only some Muslims. That is the reason I took it out was because they do not represent the entire Muslim community.

I have also said that the Bible is the word of God, but I also recognize that it was written by men inspired by the Holy Spirit. I know that men wrote it under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit and that the Bible was given to us through the Church and was not dropped down from the sky.

Are you saying that the Bible was handwritten by God and dropped from the sky?

There is a very big difference between "denying what she wrote or said" and "her actions spoke more than her words." The two are not the same at all.

For goodness sake, it is all part of learning. The more one learns, the more educated they become. In fact, I have read the Qu'ran and the Hadith, and that is why the Muslims have a difficult time debating with me.

The Bible was written by men inspired by the Holy Spirit. 1 Corinthians 14:37-38 was written by St. Paul to the Church in Corinthia. Again, the Bible was written by men inspired by the Holy Spirit.

Hi Aspen, I remember reading somewhere that the Jewish people believed that there were 7 Heavens. If I am not mistaken, it may be mentioned in the Jewish Talmund.

You have the internet. Look up the Jewish Council of Jamnia. St. Jerome knew how to speak both Hebrew and Greek, so he used both. Yes, the Jews were the first people who heard God's message, but did you not read further in the letter what St. Paul says about the Jews? Romans 10:1-4...

Why should we follow the decisions of the Jewish Council in 90 A.D? We're not Jewish. We're Christians, and the Christians have always used the Greek Septuagint. Since when did the Christians follow the Jews? Christians follow Christ and during the times of Christ, the Greek Septuagint was...

Yes, my Bible has all the books that you have, which are accepted as Scripture. :)

No, I said that what she wrote does not reflect what she did. I said that her actions spoke much louder than her words.

I already explained my position to Veteran.

And I was simply making a note that the Jewish people recognize that there are 7 Heavens. If I am not mistaken, I think it is even written in their Talmund.

I understand, but that does not mean that there is no fourth or fifth heaven. Where does it say that the third Heaven is even the last Heaven. I was only saying that the Jewish people believed that there are 7 Heavens. St. Paul was Jewish. Okay....so, St. Paul mentioned a third Heaven. Just...

Hello Veteran, Yes, I know about that. It is actually written in the footnotes of the Jerusalem Bible. :) Christ was pointing to Psalms 22 because he was showing that the prophecy is being fulfilled. I was showing Anastacia that sometimes what a person says cannot be seen what is in...

One of the good things about the US and the western world is that they believe in Freedom of Religion. That is not true in some parts of the world. They are in my prayers.

The fact that the Christians have accepted and used those books for over 1000 years until the Protestant reformation already makes it canon. As for the Jewish Council, they may have taken those books out of the Old Testament, but they still practice many things from the books that were taken...

If I am not mistaken, I think the Jewish people believed in 7 Heavens. I think that is where we get the phrase "7th Heaven" from.

Some of the posts look very colorful...like the rainbow. LOL!!!! :lol:

It was in 90 A.D. when the Jewish Council removed those 7 books and parts of Esther and Daniel from the Old Testament. The weblink below explains it. And for your informatin, the Roman Catholic Church is not the ONLY one that upholds the Apocrypha. The Orthodox Church also upholds it...