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  1. Jay Ross

    23 major reasons to reject the Premil doctrine!

    Smiles, as you still have not got the message yet, Ding Dong. God attempts to draw all people everywhere to Himself, but it is up to us to respond to His Love for us.
  2. Jay Ross

    23 major reasons to reject the Premil doctrine!

    As I have previously said to you, you need to do due diligence on what Paul was actually stating in Romans 9:25. Your paraphrasing of this verse is not what Paul had written. Paul is making reference to the fullness of the time, with respect to the time period, allocated, of the Gentiles, to...
  3. Jay Ross

    23 major reasons to reject the Premil doctrine!

    But that has been what I have been saying all along, Ding Dong. Who God calls to Himself is way above my pay grade. As God told the Israelites at Mt Sinai, "God will love those who love Him and keep His statutes." Yes, God draws us to Himself, but it is our responsibility to actually do the...
  4. Jay Ross

    23 major reasons to reject the Premil doctrine!

    Wow, so you are playing at being God because you do not trust God to keep false teaching in check. Is that because your understanding does not line up with what God has had written and you want your false teaching to dominate over God's truth. As for what I have posted, it is in accordance...
  5. Jay Ross

    23 major reasons to reject the Premil doctrine!

    Once again, I believe that you are missing what I have written in my posts. You are focusing on the "Law" not the heart of God for His people whether they are of Israeli or gentile descendants. Your argument is not with me but with God as I see it. Why not take it up with God instead of me to...
  6. Jay Ross

    23 major reasons to reject the Premil doctrine!

    Why is it so important for you to have defined, who is and who is not an Israelite? Your responses feel like legalism, on your part. God clearly said that He would show loving devotion to those who love Him and keep His statutes, in Exodus 20: 4-6, and that the Iniquities of the Israelite...
  7. Jay Ross

    23 major reasons to reject the Premil doctrine!

    But not in your #578 post that I had responded too. You only quoted the first sentence of a previous post which I had made which had contained the clarifying "but" in. Now are you happy for God to make the determination as to who is or is not an Israelite that will be saved or are you trying...
  8. Jay Ross

    23 major reasons to reject the Premil doctrine!

    Well, I have been trying to sit on the sidelines by saying that it is God who will chose who is and who is not of Israel, however you want me to define who is Israel when nearly 2,000 years have passed since 70 AD when the Roman Empire destroyed the temple and scattered the Israelites to the...
  9. Jay Ross

    23 major reasons to reject the Premil doctrine!

    Yes, I did say that, but there was also a "but" in that post which clarified my perspective. So, you are trying to justify your posts by misquoting what I have previously posted.
  10. Jay Ross

    23 major reasons to reject the Premil doctrine!

    You need to do a lot more study on Romans 11:25 to understand what the true context of this verse states. The summer season's harvest of souls, during the seventh Age, from among the Gentiles, begins after Israel is saved, not before Israel is saved as you are suggesting.
  11. Jay Ross

    23 major reasons to reject the Premil doctrine!

    Really!!! Your post is just an opinion as it does not provide any evidence to back up your POV.
  12. Jay Ross

    23 major reasons to reject the Premil doctrine!

    Your persistence is misdirected. It is not yours or my place to decide who is or is not an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, that judgement is God's to make, and I am content for Him to make it.
  13. Jay Ross

    23 major reasons to reject the Premil doctrine!

    Yes, what you have quoted from the scriptures is true, but it is God's choice as to which are the people that will be known as Israelites, true descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. It is above my pay grade to say who is Israel and who is not Israel. That was why I said that the question...
  14. Jay Ross

    23 major reasons to reject the Premil doctrine!

    The Israelite people are the descendants of Jacob. They consist of the Twelve tribes of Israel. There is no definitive answer that can be given where if I point to a particular people group, that I can say, these are the descendants of Jacob because of their DNA. There is no direct answer...
  15. Jay Ross

    23 major reasons to reject the Premil doctrine!

    Perhaps, but at the present time we are just over 6,100 years from the time when Adam was created. The end of the Six age is when Isaiah 24:21-22 occurs which is the judgement of the kings of the earth who have participated in the trampling of God's Sanctuary and His earthly Hosts. This is the...
  16. Jay Ross

    23 major reasons to reject the Premil doctrine!

    It is a loaded question. Paul tells us that All of Israel will be saved. Who - all the Israelite people alive at that time who repent of their idolatrous worship. What - ???? perhaps he means: - When - at the end of this present age after God has judged the gentile kings at Armageddon along...
  17. Jay Ross

    23 major reasons to reject the Premil doctrine!

    I referenced the scripture for you above, but here it is, take your argument up with Paul, because all I did was quote what he had written. Romans 11:25-27: - 25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you will not be conceited: A hardening in part has come to...
  18. Jay Ross

    23 major reasons to reject the Premil doctrine!

    Really, are you sure? QUOTE="Jay Ross, post: 1518997, member: 4077" - post #543 above. Actually, the Hosea 6:2 has nothing to do with the claimed 2,000-year Chruch Age, but everything to do with the visitation of the iniquities of the fathers during the first and second ages of their existence...
  19. Jay Ross

    What is satan's strategy of Armeggeden?

    hello hello hello Can God get through the sludge of peoples' BS. Armageddon is all about God's strategy and what is going to happen to Satan and his wiling faithful servants. Jesus did tell us that Satan is going to try and overcome his interment in the Bottomless pit where he will not be...
  20. Jay Ross

    There will be a global drought starting next year, the rivers of the world are already drying up

    Seems like you have not been reading the news from the southern hemisphere where flooding has been the norm for the past year or so. Perhaps a little more time on your face rather than in your own perceived importance may lead you and improve your understanding. Shalom