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So, can we agree that if there is any intercession going on today, it is focused on our sanctification and not justification? (Whether only the Father can sanctify us, and whether the Son has to ask the Father to do it by means of "intercession," is a separate question.)

I agree with you, sanctification is an ongoing process apart from justification (= being declared "righteous"). But I thought we were discussing intercession for purposes of righteousness. Yup. I just re-read your post to be sure.

I pray to a God who needs no translator. How about you?

I'm troubled by this notion of Christ's righteousness being "then imparted through the ministry of Christ's intercession before the throne of His Father in heaven." Why would Christ, post-Calvary, need to intercede on our behalf with the Father, who has already decreed that the blood of his Son...

Let me just stop you for a minute here. Granting Peter’s investiture by Jesus with a leadership role in the Church, and even granting his status as the First Bishop of Rome, it is not a necessary corollary that the Pope is the successor of Peter as leader not only of the Roman See, but of the...

Indeed. And I would reach that conclusion regardless of whether Titus 2:13 were interpreted as (1) Jesus Christ is the great God and Savior; (2) the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ are two different entities; or (3) Jesus Christ is in apposition to δόξα, with τοῦ μεγάλου θεοῦ καὶ σωτῆρος...

Heck NO!

I guess I must have misunderstood your simple analogy. Sorry. I'm not the brightest guy on the planet, although I do my best. But "purposely misconstrued" it? That's nonsense! I totally agree that "the ultimate goal of God the Father and God the Son, is TO SAVE as many as possible of the...

As a Trinitarian, and as one who does think Paul meant one and the same person in Titus 2:13, let me nevertheless express my agreement with you that the textual and linguistic evidence regarding Titus 2:13 is inconclusive on the point. (I know Kermos disagrees.)

Kermos, let me start by saying that I agree with your interpretation of "our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ" as a reference to one and the same person in Titus 2:13. So I hope you do not take it as a personal affront if I question one of your reasons -- the one I quote above...

You are straying from the point, Aunty. I have never claimed that Paul thought of or didn't think of Jesus as his God, and I don't care to debate that issue with you. In fact, I'm not interested in debating whether Jesus is God, regardless of the opinions of one Paul of Tarsus on the subject...

I'm not seeing the analogy. First, if I was omnipotent, my son would not be "the only means by which [my] neighbor's child can be saved." And if I talked my son into agreeing to take the risk of diving in the pond when I had other means to save the victim at my disposal, what does that say...

We are talking past each other. I don't doubt that kyrios (Lord) is regularly used a stand in for both the Hebrew tetragrammaton and also used as a synonym for Christ. And if kyrios had been used by Paul in 1 Cor. 10:9, translating it as "Jehovah" instead of "Christ" would be perfectly...

I have to comment, guys, there seems to be a lot of Catholic-bashing on this post (and lots of others). Honestly, I don't get it. It's almost as though anything @theefaith and @BreadOfLife posts is presumptively erroneous to @Taken and @amigo de christo. And vice versa. I am not so foolish...

OK, I've read it. Can't find any reference to the Didache as a source, direct or indirect. Graham merely speculates that some copyist or other "might actually embody and copy into the sacred text of the Gospels words or notes or phrases which did not really belong to the Gospel at all, but had...

Just one right now. It's likely that the kingdom-power-glory ending to the verse found in the KJV was not in Matthew's original, since we don't find the phrase in our earliest known manuscripts like Codex Sinaiticus, Codex Vaticanus or Codex Bezae, although we do in Codex Washingtonensis. And...

I think that's wise, Rita. My favorite example: “What’s in a name? that which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet.”  Romeo and Juliet | Act II, Scene II Shakespeare’s phrase, now a popular idiom, may be more than a bit of philological philosophy from the mouth of Juliet...

Totally agree, Rita. Let's not let the 'i's and 't's get in the way of our understanding of Scripture. And if a gospel writer didn't cross all of his 't's and dot all of his 'i's, there's no need to call him out on it. Take Matt. 27:9, which mistakenly attributes the story of the purchase of...

Go to the Greek texts! Whether the Novum Testamentum or the Textus Receptus or any other old Greek manuscript of First Corinthians you care to name, there isn't a version of 1 Cor. 10:9 that doesn't have Χριστόν.

It's just a different element of the story, as we should expect to happen occasionally when a story is recounted by different people. But it is an irrelevant detail. The theological point made by the writers is the same. There are lots of examples of this in Scripture. I am about to incur...