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When did they become not of God?

That's not what scripture says.He said He knew us before the foundation of the world...

Free will as in,did Paul have free will?

But of course He does,so then from your view we don't have free will?All He wants is our love,which can't be forced or it's not real love.

So He made me and said,well,He's going to hell and this one to heaven,and you had nothing to do with it? That's foolish!!!!!

You did ,and of course I do !!Same reply,what's the point of this life???

Okay

One does NOT have free will,don't care how you spin it ,if our fate is already known.The only people that don't have free will are those whom were chosen before being born in this earth age. Give you Paul as an example Acts 9:15 "But the Lord said unto him, "Go thy way: for he is a chosen...

So whats the point?

I would rather 2 never been created than 2 be created with my fate already sealed... Father knew you ,I mean like knew you ,not just because He knows everything.

Thank you ,and I will watch. What do you think she is doing?Do you thinks she's waiting to come back and get that flesh that has died? Do you not think she has her real body now,the spiritual one ,or do you think the spirit is nothing without the flesh.And again if this a sensitive subject for...

There's a reason God chose certain people and it's not because He knows everything...

So again what's the purpose ?And like I said all are not chosen..... Matthew 20:16 "So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen." Now we know exactly who we are talking about, "the chosen" of God, those few that are called the elect, who will have studied...

What's the purpose of this life if He already knows,that IMO would be a cruel God and that I know my Father is not...

I'm not repeat,NOT saying He is not in control. First all were not predestined ,only the elect.The point I'm trying to make is that He knew us before birth,and His elect were chosen at that time. Now let's look at Ephesians Ephesians 1:4 "According as He hath chosen us in Him before the...

So you think He would create someone knowing that they would be condemned to hell?

Okay so my question,don't take this the wrong way,as I know my Father knows all,and I also know my ways are not like His So you mean to tell me ,starting with satan,God said I'm going to create him knowing that he will sin If I may without offending you which is not my intention,where do you...

Do you all think God knows who will chose Him and who will not? I say no ,welcoming thoughts.Will elaborate more after a few responses

All good ,we all shall stand before our Father on our own,what I say on these forums ,I shall be judged by,I'm comfortable with that. Just planting seeds,and I still say the flesh won't rise

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