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IMO it's pretty ugly if i say "my heathen friend is always asking me for help on saturday but i refuse because 'sabbath'"

Just FYI ((because i know i will be attacked for glorifying God by what i have just written)) i am writing these things being myself someone who remembers the sabbath. so y'all can drop those false accusations floating around in your hearts now, before typing them. ;)

How many people believe this then go to eat lunch religiously, making a kitchen crew serve them, and call that sabbath? When God said go two miles with the one who asks you to go one, to give your coat also to a thief who takes your shirt, that you're no better than a heathen if you only love...

If refusing to help those in need is how you worship God I am not sure you have understood

have a look at Jude 1:10 in the context - "yet these people slander everything they do not understand" → Michael does not understand why Satan wants the body of Moses, but Michael is a contrasting example that condemns the people Jude speaks of. you think the LORD does not understand? that's...

Which of you shall have an ass or an ox fallen into a pit, and will not straightway pull him out on the sabbath day? - Jesus Christ, the visible Image of the invisible LORD God Almighty feel stupid yet? you look it. Proverbs 12:1

is it though? who Christ really is, is integral to whether He is Michael or not. His full inclusion in the godhead is absolutely relevant to that, and i agree that in cases in the OT where 'The Angel of the LORD' is described, like Judges 13 for example, the word 'Messenger' may be more...

wow i'm famous, and i get the royal plural verb form? :cool: this is indeed a nice welcome =]

that's either a gross mischaracterization or a wild misunderstanding of what i said. to avoid confusion, let's stick to what God says. here is what God says: whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two (Matthew 5:41) Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh...

Isaiah 9:6 Acts 20:28 1 Timothy 3:16 dude there are like a thousand places. i'm honestly shocked at how much unabashed heresy there is in this forum

do not lie -- so says not me, but so says the scripture. John 8:24. since you reject God, you will die in your sins. we don't have anything further to discuss unless one day you become a Christian.

.. the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings and Lord of lords, Who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light, Whom no man has seen or can see, to Whom be honor and everlasting power. (1 Timothy 6:15-16) please note that the One called "King of kings and Lord of lords" is...

Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen. (1 Timothy 1:17) Who is this eternal, immortal, invisible, "only" wise God to Whom all honor and glory are ascribed for ever and ever? let's have a look at the preceding paragraph to...

Christ explained that to us, don't you know? ever help anyone push their car out of the road on a sabbath day? or lift their ox out of a pit - which, metaphorically, is as helping them do the work they have before them that must be done? so Christ says, if anyone asks you to go a mile, go two...

interesting. so you rejected Christ's commandment, "if someone asks you to go one mile, go with them two" spent all day yesterday avoiding uncomfortable questions, and patted yourself on the back for it, thinking you had justified yourself by your non-action. have ya ever heard of the parable...

Jude 1:9 pretty thoroughly blows that notion up tho. Jesus is the Lord, but Michael defers to the Lord. c.f. Judges 13:18, where His name, appearing as The Angel of the LORD, is "Wonderful" ((see also Isaiah 9:6)) - and Judges 13:19-20 also establishes that He Himself is the LORD. btw...